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Old 11-05-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Are American college students studying the subjects that will lead to good jobs and keep America competitive in the world economy?

International students when they come to the U.S. study more engineering, physical and life sciences, math and computer science. Whereas American students study more social science/history, health profession and education.

What are Americans studying? – Global Public Square - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:21 AM
 
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Engineering hasn't done so well lately, but it's still better than performing arts. In good times there are usually openings for Engineering, but the latter is always marginal.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:41 AM
 
Location: C-U metro
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Civil engineering has been on the downslide since 2007. The other disciplines have done fairly well. As a chemical engineer, I would pay a little more in taxes to get my civil engineering bretheren back to work on our bridges and roads. There is a lot of bridge work that needs to be done.
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Old 11-05-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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I wouldn't study anything that can be done by a program, machine, or be outsourced.
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Anything has the potential to be outsourced these days .
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Anything has the potential to be outsourced these days .
Except a job requiring a security clearance.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:15 PM
 
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Except a job requiring a security clearance.
A lot of security clearance jobs are outsourced. Consider Lockheed Martin.
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:17 AM
 
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Except a job requiring a security clearance.
Its a double edge sword. Yes, your job is safer if you have a security clearance but those jobs are hard to get. As the economy tanks you will see alot of people retraining for the, "good" fields. Guess what happens to the good fields once there are millions flocking to get those jobs? Back to 8-10/hr they go!

Too many people and not enough jobs. Simple.

The longer we have a trade deficit, the worse its going to get. We need foreigners to buy american made products!
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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International students when they come to the U.S. study more engineering, physical and life sciences, math and computer science. Whereas American students study more social science/history, health profession and education.
I think the Humanities are essentially worthless and colleges should stop funding these departments, but I do find value in the social sciences, arts, etc. But still there is a major difference between the amount of rigor of your typical science, engineering, etc program and your typical social science, etc program. The latter usually requires noticeably less course work, the courses themselves are less depending, etc.

I bet if psychology and similar departments created more rigorous programs, which can easily be done, their enrollments would drop noticeably. Of course they will never do this, they'd be biting the hands that feed them.

Students want easy degree programs and supply always follows the $$$. The students majoring in the psychology, English, etc would often be better served in some sort of vocational program, ironically their understanding of psychology, etc would probably be the same......either way.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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The longer we have a trade deficit, the worse its going to get. We need foreigners to buy american made products!
Foreigners are going to buy products from the nations that can make the best quality for the best price...that is usually not the US.

Reductions in the trade deficit are likely to come from reduced imports, rather than increased exports. But with reduced imports will come an aggregate reduction in the standard of living of the average American. Americans will find themselves in a position, if they want the products, to create the products themselves most of which are created with low-skill labor.

Although trade deficits are likely to result in increased worker displacement and similar issues, as a whole its a transfer of wealth from the surplus countries to the deficit countries. China is effectively sending billions of $$ to the US without us having to do anything for it.... Of course its a good strategy, the Americans will get free stuff and become soft incompetent brats while China, etc can build its industrial base.
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