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And would you consider any US state actually operating with three public flagship universities?
California? UC Berkeley, USC, UCLA, UC San Diego, UC Davis, UC Santa Barbara and UC Irvine are all in top 50 of the US News and World Report's Best National Universities for 2011.
Oklahoma has two...Oklahoma State and University of Oklahoma.
I know the other UCs are highly ranked, but I don't think any of them have the profile of UCLA or Berkeley.
USC is not public, so I guess I would consider California to have two public flagships.
Arizona and Arizona State? Not sure if Northern Arizona would be a flagship. Only spent limited time there so I don't know the reputations of the schools. Guess New Mexico and New Mexico State would be similar.
I don't think there's a University of Louisiana.. and if there is that goes against the typical trend because Louisiana State University is the flagship university and also the best in the state.
I don't think there's a University of Louisiana.. and if there is that goes against the typical trend because Louisiana State University is the flagship university and also the best in the state.
Yeah, exactly, and who would have thought the University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy League school from its name? And that the University of Detroit is Jesuit/Catholic?
Let's see, all of the following states, though large, have one and it's named University of (insert state name). That said, these states, to me, have one:
MI, TX, FL, IL, CO, AZ, VA, WA. I think that we can say this because all the disciplines are there, despite claims Michigan State and Texas A&M might be flagships, I don't think they are.
On the other hand, GA, NC, IN and OR, for example, have two, because not all the disciplines are offered at each.....so UGa/GT, UNC/NCSU, Purdue/IU, UofO/OSU...the only exception may become UGa which just kicked off an engineering school, probably to take the "overflow" from GT.
The only state that has two public flagships is CA, because it has the population of Argentina or Spain. Those would be Berkeley and UCLA. Berkeley does not have a medical school, but UCSF is a graduate-only health related campus in the same metro area. However, the mother campus is Berkeley. I think it was founded in 1868 and UCLA somewhere in the early 1900s. Sure would have been nice to come from a long line of land-owners near each of those campuses.
UGA is clearly the flagship school and better overall than GT. What's NCSU? The only school at the UNC level in NC is Duke, which is a private school.
Purdue and IU is interesting combination, but Purdue is clearly better though, not only nationally, but also internationally.
Even in CA, Berkeley is clearly better than UCLA, just like Stanford is clearly better than Berkeley.
The thing about North Carolina is that it can be hard to tell because UNC and NCSU were set up to do different things. UNC has historically been the school for stuff like Law, Medicine, Social sciences/humanities etc. NCSU has historically been the school for stuff like Engineering, agriculture/veterinary medicine, life sciences, and advanced technical degrees.
Generally though UNC is considered the flagship simply because of its wider reputation.
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