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Sorry, don't mean to be rude, but is this a joke? If not, then who are you talking to? If community colleges were "bad," then please explain the University of California's Transfer Admission Guarantee (TAG) program. It's premised on the fact that most CA cc's are very good at what they do, if you make the grades, then you will be guaranteed entrance to one of the campuses belonging to, arguably, the finest public university system in the nation. If cc's were "bad" in general, then this program wouldn't exist. You better rethink who you listen to...
Public schools are motivated by requirements attached to public funds.
Private schools which receive public funds are motivated by requirements attached to public funds....fixed it for you.
Both are true. The point is that if you think that public funding does not have anything to do with why there are policies around accepting students from community colleges, you are surely mistaken. That is the motivation behind UC TAG.
Both are true. The point is that if you think that public funding does not have anything to do with why there are policies around accepting students from community colleges, you are surely mistaken. That is the motivation behind UC TAG.
You have no idea what this thread is about or what you're talking about. The OP was what was wrong with CC's. If something was wrong with CC's, then the finest public university system in the world wouldn't be accepting those students. Nor would selective private universities for that matter. The TAG program is to assure those cc's students who meet the grades are accepted to those campuses, and only if they meet those requirements, meaning that they are as selective as many private universities. Your argument is truly specious, if you think that public funding doesn't have anything to do with ANY university, private or public, then you truly have no idea what it is your saying. Private universities take loans backed by the FEDs in order to maintain their enrollments, they have more students attending their universities precisely because the FEDs are backing higher debt loads from those students. That is in fact why they have higher enrollments, in order to take advantage of the fact that public funds are assuring them of getting more students and more money. Your posts are nonsense....
Both are true. The point is that if you think that public funding does not have anything to do with why there are policies around accepting students from community colleges, you are surely mistaken. That is the motivation behind UC TAG.
I'm dumb as a brick but I can go to Harvard because I will give them extra money see how the world works.
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Lots of good with community colleges, more affordable, can get the basic core courses, less wasteful of your time and money (opposed to the prevalent fresh/soph drinking/partying their way through the first year or two to have to repeat or extend college to 5 years to get the B.S.), and a chance to try subjects to see what you like. It can lead you efficiently to B.S. programs and opportunities thereafter.
The thing my son mentioned, who went straight from community college to a PHD in Pharmacy program, was that his cc science classes weren't quite at the academic level at the community college as those of his peers from B.S. institutions; so he had to dig into everything as if it were new material. He has had a hard row to hoe academically and it has been nose to the grindstone for him. But he is almost there.
Probably not your normal situation and wouldn't apply overall. But worth considering for someone wanting to go to Med School, Pharm School, Dental, Vet, etc.
But if you don't know what you want to be, want to go into most of the careers available, etc; I would see cc as a good choice.
Went to Community College for two years directly after high school. Then transferred to a 4yr university, graduated with under 20k worth of school loans. Community colleges are awesome!
You have no idea what this thread is about or what you're talking about. The OP was what was wrong with CC's. If something was wrong with CC's, then the finest public university system in the world wouldn't be accepting those students. Nor would selective private universities for that matter. The TAG program is to assure those cc's students who meet the grades are accepted to those campuses, and only if they meet those requirements, meaning that they are as selective as many private universities.
I know exactly what the thread is about and I've already stated the CCs have their place. There's a lot of good and bad with them (which I've stated previously).
You asked for an explanation of the TAG program. I suppose I wasn't clear. See, CA puts stipulations on UC when it hands over state funds. One of those stipulations is that UC has to accept all students from CA's CCs who maintain a certain level of performance. This has nothing to do with UC assessing that CA's CCs are good or bad. This has to do with the state providing a way to push students through the public higher education system.
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Originally Posted by loloroj
Your argument is truly specious, if you think that public funding doesn't have anything to do with ANY university, private or public, then you truly have no idea what it is your saying. Private universities take loans backed by the FEDs in order to maintain their enrollments, they have more students attending their universities precisely because the FEDs are backing higher debt loads from those students. That is in fact why they have higher enrollments, in order to take advantage of the fact that public funds are assuring them of getting more students and more money. Your posts are nonsense....
Many good schools, whether public or private, don't care about enrollment. And not all private universities take loans backed by the FEDs. For example, my university does not. But that's besides the point. Student loans are another, separate issue. They do not come with policy. State funding on the other hand, comes with requirements.
I went to community college for 2 years, then transferred to a 4 year school. My degree has the name of the 4 year school and people have no idea I spend half my time at cc. I went because it saved a LOT of money. The first 2 years are all basic classes anyway. I don't know why people are snobby about community college. They shouldn't be, it's a great option for a lot of people.
Me too. I was working full time and did it. When I graduated from the university I had zero debt.
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