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Old 03-25-2010, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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Are you looking at the Becker website? They just give you a general overview of the requirements, and I don't even think their IL summary is very accurate (they say the min degree required is an associates, when it's a bachelors). I highly recommend going to the IL Board of Examiners website. It's a lot more specific:

http://www.ilboa.org/

Basically it makes it sound like if you don't have a graduate degree from a program that is accredited in business, you have to take 24 hrs in accounting + 24 hours of other business courses. Your best option from a credit hour standpoint may be a graduate degree in accounting.
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:51 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I'm currently pursuing an A.A in Liberal Arts. However I'm thinking of changing my major to Business Administration. I'm thinking of majoring in accounting once I transfer to a four year college. However if I do, I feel like I've wasted a year of college, because many of the courses I took would be meaningless. I do plan on talking with an advisor this week about it, but I was wondering what you're thoughts are. Should I stay on the liberal arts course or should I switch my major? I think switching may require me to stay at a two year county college longer than I planned, but if that's what I have to do then that's what I'll do.

Thoughts?
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:22 PM
 
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I am 45 years old and starting my accounting degree. I want to get my masters and sit for my CPA. I want to work for one of the big four also. Does anyone know of a middle age person changing careers and working for these guys. What are the odds? I think I am going in the direction of auditing.
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Old 04-16-2010, 10:27 PM
 
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if u want job security take accounting.
I am an intern at an insurance company and doing basic accounting stuff.
THANK GOD i did not major in accounting, job security is not worth wasting my one life sitting in a cubicle doing calculations with no interest.
Office Space.
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Old 04-17-2010, 07:26 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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I'm currently pursuing an A.A in Liberal Arts. However I'm thinking of changing my major to Business Administration. I'm thinking of majoring in accounting once I transfer to a four year college. However if I do, I feel like I've wasted a year of college, because many of the courses I took would be meaningless. I do plan on talking with an advisor this week about it, but I was wondering what you're thoughts are. Should I stay on the liberal arts course or should I switch my major? I think switching may require me to stay at a two year county college longer than I planned, but if that's what I have to do then that's what I'll do.

Thoughts?

Better to waste a year than graduate with a degree that will get you a career serving coffee at Starbucks. Graduating with a degree that is useless in terms of getting you a rewarding career can be a painful lesson. I am learning about that now with mine (Chemistry).
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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if u want job security take accounting.
I am an intern at an insurance company and doing basic accounting stuff.
THANK GOD i did not major in accounting, job security is not worth wasting my one life sitting in a cubicle doing calculations with no interest.
Office Space.
I'd trade my chemistry degree for accounting any day of the week. I fact, I intend to start taking accounting classes at CC this summer. I'll take safe and well paid over interesting but insecure and ridiculously low paid.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:37 AM
 
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I am 45 years old and starting my accounting degree. I want to get my masters and sit for my CPA. I want to work for one of the big four also. Does anyone know of a middle age person changing careers and working for these guys. What are the odds? I think I am going in the direction of auditing.
Dude the big four isn't going to hire you, you're too old. There's no way they would trust some middle-aged person to have the stamina to pull 14+ hour days during busy season.

I saw that you asked the same question back in March and people told you the same thing - you're too old. Take a hint? Cut your losses and move on.
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:05 AM
 
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I am 45 years old and starting my accounting degree. I want to get my masters and sit for my CPA. I want to work for one of the big four also. Does anyone know of a middle age person changing careers and working for these guys. What are the odds? I think I am going in the direction of auditing.
The Big Four only hire young people that they can mold and work into the ground. My mother had a 4.0 GPA and a CPA license and she could not get a job with the Big Four because she was in her 30's.

Hate to be pessimistic..but it is the truth.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:42 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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I'm actually interested if a MS is useful. I am a chemist looking to change careers to accounting for better pay and career potential. I am thinking of going for a MSA.

Chemistry is a very devalued and low paying career from what I've seen. $15-20 an hour and no benefits because most companies only hire chemists through agencies and don't make them FTE's.
Funny, I was just thinking about taking extra courses to qualify for an MS in Chemsitry. In your opion do you think it's worth it?
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Old 04-24-2010, 09:53 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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No. BS and MS's are lumped into the same category. MS might make you a bit more attractive for BS level jobs but It won't increase your pay in most instances.

PhD is definitely not worth it. The completion rate is ~50% [even less in really bad programs] and takes 5+ years. Success has more to do if you end up with an adviser who mentors you and cares about you rather than a lot of PI's who see grad students as cheap labor to do the lab work and teach undergrad chemistry.

After you get the Ph. D after living off 15k for 5 years you are rewarded with post-docing which pays ~35k usually without benefits. After post-docing for years you may get a nice industrial position or if you win the lottery a tenure track position. More often your career dead ends and you are stuck doing a career change ~age 40.

I think your best bet is to find an area that is very specific and in demand and do a MS there or an internship. Some examples are become a certified Flavorist, formulations of paint or adhesives, Mass spec of proteins. Otherwise a science degree will make you a lab serf earning $15-20 an hour many times with no benefits for the rest of your life or until you do a career change.

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Or get a business degree and get into the business side of things. I'm sure a lot of science oriented companies could use managers or accountants that have an understanding of science.

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