12-06-2008, 08:42 AM
Location: Wichita, KS
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After seven years of living in Prescott Valley AZ I think we will be moving to Colorado. We have a son living in McPherson KS with wife and 15-month-old granddaughter. So you see we have strong reason to live within easy drive. Problem is we don't want to live in Kansas - too much like on "Everybody Loves Raymond" and also, something about living in Kansas doesn't sit right with us.
Originally we thought maybe we could move to Western Colorado (Glenwood Springs, etc.) but simply looking on the map I notice that Colorado Springs or even Pueblo seem to be much easier drive to Kansas. So you can see I'm trying to narrow down a suitable area to concentrate relocation destinations.
Our priorities are: MUST have airport nearby to fly to Phoenix Arizona FREQUENTLY due to health concerns with other immediate family. I absolutely must be able to arrive here in Prescott within a day or so, therefore an airport is mandatory. But we don't want to live in "big city" either so the airport can be 50 miles away or whatever - enough distance to reach the kind of life we want - not big city, but not one-mule village either. The usual retirement destination needs: medical, movies, restaurants etc.
I was reading with interest the other thread about where in Colorado Springs to move. Anyone else with some thoughts? What about Pueblo, CO???? How is that place to live compared to C.S.???
Thanks in advance,
Doug H.
Prescott Valley, AZ
12-06-2008, 09:39 AM
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Doug:
- There is a huge airport in Denver, not more than 75 minutes from COLO SPGS. Flights to anywhere and everywhere. Southwest Airlines with their low fares uses this airport in this region.
- There is a medium airport in COLO SPGS that should have flights to Phoenix.
- There is a small airport in Pueblo that may have flights to Phoenix.
Best way to find out the frequency of flights is to put a search into travelocity or other such system. We do have some pilots and frequent flyers on this board who may have actual experience.
Regarding driving to McPherson, KS, it is an easy drive from COLO SPGS, Monument, Woodland Park, Pueblo or Canon City. Consider them all the same for this aspect of your location.
If you still need to work, tell us about where that would be located and we might have some insights for you. Generally, the region is fairly compact around the city and the military bases here, most anywhere is fine. All of your retirement needs (same as ours) are met just fine up here in the far north end of town. Be sure to check the Briargate topics and photo's listed in the index of threads. Houses up here in all price ranges, mostly newish, good road access, eateries, shopping, nothing bad. But for retirees, any number of areas would work fine; depends mostly on how much land you want around you and what is your comfort zone on prices.
12-06-2008, 11:17 AM
Location: Denver, CO
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I don't blame you about living in Kansas! I grew up in Wichita and my grandma still lives in McPherson. It's about a 7hr drive from Woodland Park to McP, just under 1000 miles round trip. Pueblo tends to have more milder weather than the Springs, since it's down south and 1500' lower in elevation. Monument is at almost 7000' elevation, so it gets colder and more snow than the Springs. But Monument is an easy drive to Devner and the Springs, which is a big plus.
The wife and I really love Woodland Park. It's a mountain town that does get cold sometimes and will get more snow than the Springs (WP is 8500', CS is 6000'), but it's so beautiful up here. No crime, 7000 population, and a easy 20 minute drive down to Colorado Springs. Also only 80 miles from skiing at Breckenridge/Keystone.
12-06-2008, 11:36 AM
Location: Virginia
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I used to visit Prescott Valley when I was a kid living in Kearny, AZ. I think you should choose Colo Spgs over Pueblo. Pueblo reminds me of AZ to be honest, dry and small (Seriously small) cacti on the ground. Pueblo will get snow, but not much. Colo Spgs is more like the temps you are used to, occasional snow and then melts right away. Pls visit to see for yourself.
12-08-2008, 01:45 PM
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I live in Falcon, CO (eastern suburb) and love it - been in Falcon 5 years. In 5 years it has grown a lot and it continues to grow. It sounds like it may meet most of the criteria you described:
1) 20-25 minutes from Colorado Springs airport.
2) About 75 minutes to Denver Airport (DIA)
3) Much quieter than Colorado Springs, but Falcon still has major amenities needed (e.g. Wal-mart, grocery, gas, bars, restaurants, Blockbuster, pizza chains, etc.).
4) Only 15 minutes from big box stores, movie theaters, and plethora of restaurants in Stetson Hills area.
5) About 10-15 minutes from new Penrose Hospital.
6) Cost of housing is a little lower than many newer areas of town.
7) And it will cut 10-30 minutes off any other commute in the Colorado Springs area to Kansas.
12-08-2008, 02:58 PM
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As you probably already know, Denver has dozens of daily direct flights to Phoenix on United, Frontier, Southwest, and U.S. Airways. Fares are typically very inexpensive on this route.
Colorado Springs has direct flights to Phoenix on U.S. Airways and most of the other carriers can get you there with a connection. Fares will be higher than Denver, however, so for that reason many people drive to Denver. Long ago, COS was actually cheaper than Denver, but that is no longer the case.
Pueblo is served by a small commuter carrier called Great Lakes Aviation, with flights to Denver. Great Lakes code-shares with Frontier Airlines so you can connect to Phoenix from Denver. As you'd expect, your fare from Pueblo will usually be higher than from Denver.
12-08-2008, 04:50 PM
Location: Wichita, KS
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Hello all, thanks to all who bothered to respond! That was my first post in this forum and I must say it’s great that you all took time (‘speshly this time of year!) to answer my questions.
To get STRAIGHT to the point, because of some “communication issues” I now find that my stepson and his family are considering moving to Overland Park, KS because of greater job prospects. Which brings up the whole topic of parents moving to be near kids….in my view, it can be a dangerous game because what if they move AGAIN in five years time? I’m guessing many of you have either experience with this or just opinions – maybe both. Some feel that it’s a game for a damned fool to be following kids around the country while they’re in their 20’s. I remember when I was SURE I’d be in a given location forever – then along came a better paying job or a girl with long legs…you get the idea. Long story short, we might be looking at Colorado Springs or Pueblo – but I might be posting questions in Kansas City MO forum!
“Mike from back east”, I can’t thank you enough for your considered comments. From looking @ the maps, I agree – I should consider Colorado Springs, Monument, Woodland Park, Pueblo or Canon City more or less the same when it comes to driving to McPherson. To answer your question about my line of work – I’m retired from the printing industry and I will never give a damn about anybody’s need for business cards again! Instead, I’m now following my other passion – repairing antique clocks. It’s a hobby that pays an occasional bill or two. But the important thing is that it’s a hobby/income-producer that I do at home.
The rest of you good folks, I appreciate your valuable information and I will be taking it to heart. We’ll be visiting Colorado this Spring. It’s just that I think we’ll be considering Kansas City MO at the same time.
Thanks!
Doug H.
Prescott Valley, AZ
12-08-2008, 05:51 PM
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Doug, thanks for the kind words. City-Data is one of the things that I do in my retirement to have fun. Keeps me out of bars.
Following the kids around is a dicey game, the whole board may change and then you're stuck on Park Place while they've "passed go" and are over on Baltic Place with there money in the Reading RR.
The clock thing sounds like fun, I'm sure there's a show circuit where you can buy, sell and fix them. I keep my eyes on ebay for a certain Napoleon style with Westminster chimes, like my favorite uncle had .... buying back my childhood one memory at a time.
12-09-2008, 05:20 PM
Location: Wichita, KS
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Mike from back east
Doug, thanks for the kind words. City-Data is one of the things that I do in my retirement to have fun. Keeps me out of bars.
Following the kids around is a dicey game, the whole board may change and then you're stuck on Park Place while they've "passed go" and are over on Baltic Place with there money in the Reading RR.
The clock thing sounds like fun, I'm sure there's a show circuit where you can buy, sell and fix them. I keep my eyes on ebay for a certain Napoleon style with Westminster chimes, like my favorite uncle had .... buying back my childhood one memory at a time.
Mike, I know what you mean by "keep me out of the bars"!!! I was in top-40 bands and classic-rock bands most of my life and lemme tell ya - it ain't a healthy thing. Especially if you're married. Enough said. Clock repair is a hobby that keeps me safely at home and my bad habits in check. Yup, there's a couple of clock/watch organizations that runs annual shows in Denver (everywhere else too) but mostly I do it for fun. But after I repair and restore a few 100+ year-old clocks for neighbors and friends, word usually spreads and I can keep busy that way. Beats the heck out of "punching the clock".
Mike, you mentioned a Napoleon-style clock - I've never heard that term but after a little work on Google, I realize you mean mantle clock with the "camel-hump" case. They are still very prevalent and not hard to come by. Let me know if I can help you secure one - but one word of caution: if you buy one on eBay, steer clear of any that come with a "floating balance". It's a substitute for a pendulum. They quit working eventually (mostly because of incompetent service -they should NEVER be oiled) and are next to impossible to replace because the maker (a company called Hermle) quit making them in the late '60's or early '70's. You should be able to find a good Seth Thomas Napoleon mantle clock with time/strike/chime that has a good old-fashioned swinging pendulum. PM me if you need any more advice.......
Thanks again!!
Doug H.
Prescott Valley, AZ
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Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)