10-03-2011, 05:30 AM
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First, yes I know they are all resort towns but it really doesn't bother me. I wouldn't mind moving to a place where there are some new faces around each season. I also realize they are all rather expensive but I'm not concerned about that either. I am single, 33, no kids, no responsibilities and I really want to live in a mountain town. I'm looking for a mountain town that has some culture, nightlife, and is aesthetically pleasing. That's about it since I know each place as plenty of outdoor activities. Which would you choose and why? Is there another place better suited that I didn't list?
Thanks for your time and advice.
10-03-2011, 07:52 AM
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All of them are aesthetically pleasing. I think Telluride is the prettiest, but it's also very isolated, as is CB. If you are used to living in a very small town where everyone knows your business then those two may be a nice fit, though small means less employment, relationship, housing and cultural opportunities.
Breck and Vail are both run by Vail Resorts, so if you have a ski pass for one you can ski the other as well as Keystone and Beaver Creek. Both are closer to Denver and the I-70 corridor and can be a little easier to live in for a first time mountain resident. Breck is a bit colder and higher in elevation than Vail but has more of a small town local feel. Vail has more international visitors and higher end accommodations, there are close by towns like Avon and Edwards that are filled with normal people.
If you are planning on being here this winter, the job postings are up now as well as rental situations. Check the Vail Daily, Summit Daily as well as craigslist for the high rockies for jobs and housing. Crested Butte News and Telluride News are the papers for those areas and they also have postings on craigslist usually under the western slope section.
10-03-2011, 01:50 PM
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One of the great things that I miss from Vail is every year there were at least 150 new people for me to work with, many from different countries around the world. Many I only knew for a season, some I've stayed in contact with and made a few lifetime friends.
The other thing I enjoyed was the seasonal aspect. You'd have a great build up for ski season, new people arriving, new tourists all the time to talk to. Winter would peak, people would start leaving in March, everyone would be gone by the end of April, spring would begin. A smaller crew would work the summer, summer would be more relaxed, then that would end, everyone would go on vacation and then the process would begin again. I loved the renewal and the firm beginning and end of seasons. It wasn't like a bog standard 9-5 monday thru friday existence.
I think Vail has the best mix of things to do in winter and summer. There is always some event or festival or concert going on in winter and summer. And tons of sporting activities to do, plenty of places to eat out and socialize, etc.
Breck would be my 2nd choice, but is higher in elevation than Vail and colder. The town isn't as pleasing to me or has what Vail has on offer.
CB and Telluride are pretty isolated, so if you like that, then you might like those towns. One of the benefits to me in Vail was Denver was 2 hours away. I do not like big cities, but sometimes it is nice to be able to drive to one without it being a multi day trip.
10-03-2011, 03:06 PM
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Thank you Dogmama and Wanneroo!
I appreciate the feedback. I noticed from google maps that Vail is the only one with an interstate running through it/next to it. Would you say this is a plus or minus? I would guess that at certain times of the year, you might not be able to get out of T-ride or CB.
10-03-2011, 04:38 PM
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Telluride and CB can feel very isolated especially in the winter and the off season. Also when you do get out of town there isn't really a city to go to as a day trip, not that everyone needs that I haven't been to Denver in over a year, Glenwood Springs has pretty much all I need for necessity shopping.
Vail does have I-70 running through it, when you're in the Village you don't feel the presence of the interstate, we don't really have traffic out here so it's not like living on I-95. Here's a link to the CDOT web cams so you can see what the area looks like:
Road Conditions, Speeds, Travel Times, Traffic Cameras, Live Streaming Traffic Cameras, Road Closures and Road Work Information provided by Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) a branch of Colorado Department of Transportation
I've lived in Vail, Telluride, Aspen and now back to Vail again. I do prefer the convenience of living close to the I-70 corridor. I can get to the airport and catch a cheap flight out of Denver, rather than taking puddle jumpers out of Telluride. Vail has something interesting going on summer and winter and in the off seasons, there is a good sense of community here without knowing everything about everybody.
10-03-2011, 04:42 PM
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Thank you Dogmama and Wanneroo!
I appreciate the feedback. I noticed from google maps that Vail is the only one with an interstate running through it/next to it. Would you say this is a plus or minus? I would guess that at certain times of the year, you might not be able to get out of T-ride or CB.
A plus in some ways in that the long, narrow Vail Valley(which I include down to Edwards), with the interstate it makes it easy to get around.
The downside is if you live next to it, as I have, you get to hear it 24 hours a day if your windows are open. Usually if you live outside of the first perimeter of properties from the interstate you will not notice it much.
It also makes it easy to get to Denver, assuming good weather and traffic.
10-04-2011, 12:24 PM
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If your looking for that "local" experience.
Or what a "ski-town" ,"laid back" feel like then telluride or Crested Butte is for you.
If you want to be lost in the crowd of folks from the eastern slope or from any where and you like the hussl and bussl of a large town then stay on I-70
Vail , breck all of I-70 has lost that ski town culture along ago.
Both CB and telluride have larger towns 1/2 to 1hr away.
10-04-2011, 05:30 PM
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Per usual: explore in person
With any decent vehicle you can drive from or to Telluride or Crested Butte most any day of the year. Although a few times now and then when it might be a better idea to remain by the fire, or up on the slopes. But whether conditions clear or not, still a long drive from either to any town of appreciable size. That can be a plus or minus, depending on how you look at it.
Speaking of access, either Breckenridge or Vail will enjoy far better access to the front range and all that offers in services, etc. However, were you me, I'd think once, twice and at least three times before overlooking the interstate bisecting Vail . I'm not saying it will be an overpowering presence everywhere in Vail, but if minding such things then at least a thorough on the ground investigation would be in order. Too bad, because otherwise Vail has a lot to offer by way of skiing, aprés skiing, etc.
Breckenridge does as well, minus the interstate. It enjoys a beautiful location, a great ski mountain with ready access to other options in Summit County. Due a lot of emphasis on local Victorian architecture, Breckenridge is arguably one of the most picturesque towns in Colorado. If looking for the most possible activity and services Breckenridge and Vail would be the two best choices of these four.
In aesthetics Crested Butte and Telluride are no less alluring, and can hold their own to an extent with culture and nightlife. But they are each small isolated towns, so without the larger market which would allow a place such as Aspen or Vail to offer that much more. One will also probably find them more insular and down-home, despite all the tourists at times, due their isolation. Both have beautiful settings, as all do, although the high box canyon of Telluride is something else altogether.
One can learn a lot from posing such a question remotely. But each of these towns is unique enough in circumstance and ambience that merely picking one because all Colorado mountain ski towns would be a mistake. In actually visiting each in person you will gain a better sense of this, and which at last feels most like home.
It should prove a pleasant excursion to do so.
10-04-2011, 06:18 PM
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First, yes I know they are all resort towns but it really doesn't bother me. I wouldn't mind moving to a place where there are some new faces around each season. I also realize they are all rather expensive but I'm not concerned about that either. I am single, 33, no kids, no responsibilities and I really want to live in a mountain town. I'm looking for a mountain town that has some culture, nightlife, and is aesthetically pleasing.
All the places you mentioned have as much culture and nightlife as can be expected for mountain resorts.
Crested Butte is asthetically pleasing in a very-high-altitude, 10,000 foot kind of way. The town is right about treeline, so the surrounding mountains are rocky and devoid of trees.
Crested Butte and Telluride are the most isolated of the four mentioned, meaning off the beaten track, not located along a major freeway or near major towns.
All four see quite a lot of tourists and residents rotating in and out.
If the choice were mine, it would come down to how isolated I wanted to be. Did I want to be close to Denver (Breckenridge)? Did I want to be on a major freeway a couple hours from Denver (Vail)? Or do I really want to be off the beaten track in a less populated area of the state (CB or Telluride)?
If mountain Colorado prices were no problem for me, I personally would choose Aspen. Breckenrigde has too much traffic and too many boaters. Vail is cramped. Crested Butte is too dang high up, and Telluride is too far away from everything!
10-04-2011, 06:40 PM
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Crested Butte is asthetically pleasing in a very-high-altitude, 10,000 foot kind of way. The town is right about treeline, so the surrounding mountains are rocky and devoid of trees.
. . . Crested Butte is too dang high up. .
Of the four towns the OP mentioned, the difference in elevation is not major.
Crested Butte is not the highest - Breckenridge is. (Talking about the towns, not the ski areas themselves - you might be thinking of the base area of the ski hill at Crested Butte.)
The elevation of each of the towns:
Breckenridge 9600
Crested Butte 8900
Telluride 8750
Vail 8022
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Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)