10-19-2015, 10:21 AM
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Doesn't exactly have to be FairPlay i like cripplecreek Divide Guffy and of those area I just don't want to be in the city
Well, posting this in the Denver forum doesn't really make sense then. Just sayin.
10-19-2015, 10:22 AM
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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I am not experienced with central Colorado, but many people have very similar intentions about moving to the southern Rockies.That is moving to some small mountain town and making a successful go of it economically and socially.
I would say your dream is possible with modification. What I mean by that is if you set your sights on a place to get a job, as opposed to a specific geographic location that you have fallen in love with, you can find what you are looking for. There are places where your skills are in demand, as mentioned, along the Front Range.
Find out where these jobs are, then live in the best, by your criteria, commutable location to those jobs. Then, after working a few years out here, you can figure out if moving to central Colorado is feasible or even desirable at that point.
There are many remarkable places to explore the outdoors in the Front Range. You don't have to restrict yourself to Fairplay which, I can assure you, is a different place in your mind than it is after having lived there for a year.
10-19-2015, 10:32 AM
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I think what a lot of people are pointing out is that in your industry, the closest places for steady work in your field would be Colorado Springs or Denver for Fairplay (1 hour, 40 minute drive either way) or Colorado Springs for Cripple Creek (1 hour drive).
And it's not just the length of the drive. You are talking about being in the mountains. In winter. Those drive times are estimates of when the weather's fine and the road are good. Wintertime, you can blow those estimates to hell. Not to mention, you said you were born and raised in Miami, which means you have zip experience driving in the ice and snow, especially on mountain roads. You are talking where chains on your tires will be a way of life. Winters in the Fairplay/Cripple Creek area can be pretty brutal. You may find yourself stuck quite a bit, and your job is not one that you can telecommute to.
I just really don't think you're prepared for what you're proposing.
10-19-2015, 10:45 AM
Location: Homestead, FL
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I think what a lot of people are pointing out is that in your industry, the closest places for steady work in your field would be Colorado Springs or Denver for Fairplay (1 hour, 40 minute drive either way) or Colorado Springs for Cripple Creek (1 hour drive).
And it's not just the length of the drive. You are talking about being in the mountains. In winter. Those drive times are estimates of when the weather's fine and the road are good. Wintertime, you can blow those estimates to hell. Not to mention, you said you were born and raised in Miami, which means you have zip experience driving in the ice and snow, especially on mountain roads. You are talking where chains on your tires will be a way of life. Winters in the Fairplay/Cripple Creek area can be pretty brutal. You may find yourself stuck quite a bit, and your job is not one that you can telecommute to.
I just really don't think you're prepared for what you're proposing.
So what areas do you guys think I should look into? I really want the freedom and the mountains
10-19-2015, 11:06 AM
Location: Colorado Springs
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Salida or Buena Vista. Bigger towns where there is a reasonable amount of construction happening in the county surrounding it. Better odds of employment there than in Fairplay. Could expand that to Gunnison, maybe Grand Junction or Durango. Cripple Creek may have some chance of employment at the mine. They operate some pretty heavy equipment up there. Cripple Creek and Victor Gold Mine
Cripple Creek & Victor Gold Mining Company otherwise you should plan on working at a casino.
IMO, this is a drastic change. You are suggesting moving from a hot, humid climate at 100' elevation to cool, dry living at 9000' elevation. Not saying it isn't impossible, but I'd think you would look at places like Georgia, Alabama, or Mississippi before coming to Colorado. Its not impossible, but may not be easy. You won't necessarily find a lot of freedom from people around here. Certainly not the concentration you have in Florida per square mile, but we also have open space that is not habitable. 50,000 crammed into a Sunday commute on I-70 will probably remind you of Florida traffic. Geography here means that will density may appear low, it sometimes means all those people are crammed into a small mountain valley. Its not all Marlboro ads and mountain vistas out here.
10-19-2015, 11:08 AM
Location: Santa Fe, NM
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How about Woodland Park? Or Evergreen?
10-19-2015, 11:12 AM
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OP - In simple terms, the future location should make as much sense (or preferably more) than the current location. It seems that many of us don't see it making sense, and on many levels. It's got to be stronger and more justifiable than wanting to be by or in the mountains. And freedom.... that seems to only come with enough $ and a good/smart approach. If you're struggling to pay bills, there will be no freedom, because there will be no peace (unless a bum, but I don't think that's the case).
Plus, even if it worked on a work/living/budget basis, you still might feel like a "fish out of water", or "stranger in a strange land" based on the huge difference in areas, cultures, way-of-doing-things.
Please proceed with caution, especially with a family in tow. Their needs and adjustments (and dealing with those invisible learning curves) all need to be kept in mind at all times. Even your post is titled "Am I Making the Wrong Move(?)", rather than "Are We Making the Wrong Move(?)". This is one area where you don't want to get carried away with your dream and vision, and not see how it could affect the family. Even assuming that they share the same vision isn't strong enough. The more heads thinking about this, talking about it, and reflecting upon it, the better
10-20-2015, 12:55 PM
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I was born in Buena Vista and grew up in Salida, not far from Fairplay. I just wanted to mention to you that park county has some harsh winters. It is a remote high mountain valley with lots of blowing wind/snow in the winter. Even on sunny winter days you can find the wind blowing snow creating ground blizzards. Loving the outdoors is a great reason to live there, but remember 6 months of the year are spent mostly indoors with an average of only 11 to 33 degree temps with wind and snow. Even that 4 wheeler of yours will be parked half of the year unless you put a snow plow on it. It's also worth mentioning that you would be coming in the middle of the great Colorado population boom. Those nice fishing holes, camp sites and trail heads that us natives grew up with are now crowded with the 4 million people coming to the mountains for the weekend. If you want remote, move to Montana
10-20-2015, 05:35 PM
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OP, it sounds to me that you could find lovely scenery in many parts of Colorado, and perhaps Utah, Wyoming, New Mexico... Idaho? Others will have suggestions. Colorado is a beautiful state and I'm hoping to eventually move there myself, but I realize that New Mexico, Wyoming, etc., also have spots that I would love. I just haven't investigated them yet.
The Western Slope sounds like it has somewhat milder winters, but that's relative. If you're used to the snow-less life in Florida, then any snow is an adjustment. (I'm from Southern California, and I should know!) With that said, I have heard here on these forums that places like Montrose or Grand Junction are warmer. But they still have winter, they can be dry, and I have no idea how they would be for getting a job. (I'm guessing not good.)
If scenery is what you want, there's a lot of states that have it, and would probably be an improvement to what you are experiencing in Florida, though they may not check all the boxes you have in your head, and therefore wouldn't be "perfect." But they could be a step up, and improvement, and you'd end up happier there than where you are now.
10-20-2015, 08:20 PM
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The Western Slope sounds like it has somewhat milder winters, but that's relative. If you're used to the snow-less life in Florida, then any snow is an adjustment. (I'm from Southern California, and I should know!) With that said, I have heard here on these forums that places like Montrose or Grand Junction are warmer. But they still have winter, they can be dry, and I have no idea how they would be for getting a job. (I'm guessing not good.)
Regarding the Western Slope, specifically the Grand Junction area, winters are in fact colder than the Front range, in fact 20 to 25 degrees colder. December to early February is the coldest time, temperatures rarely get over 35 and the lows are generally 5 to 10 degrees. We don't get nearly the moisture here that the Denver area does.
Then again, when March comes it slowly warms up a little bit more and a little bit more. Rarely will you ever see it snowing in Grand Junction after, say, March 20th. The counties south of the Grand Junction area such as Ouray, Hinsdale, San Miguel, they will stay snowy for another month to six weeks.
ADD>>>>>The flip side to this is an earlier Spring. The Front Range always gets a good size Spring snowstorm in April, maybe a couple. And sometimes May as well!
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People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)