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View Poll Results: Columbus: More like Cleveland or Cincinnati?
Cleveland 14 31.11%
Cincinnati 31 68.89%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-22-2016, 07:46 AM
 
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FWIW as someone who's only spent a small amount of time in each, I'd consider Cincinnati to be by far the most unique of the three cities - it even used to have its own accent. Cleveland is a more typical Rust Belt city along the lines of Detroit or Buffalo or Milwaukee or Chicago, and Columbus is just a generic newly developed and rapidly growing American city along the lines of Nashville or Denver or Raleigh.
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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And yours? Why are you still posting here about a city in which you don't live and clearly don't like?
A- I don't live in 99.99999999999% of all cities in the world. Why limit yourself to only talking about the city where you currently are? That's not a well-thought out statement there.

B- When did I say I didn't like Columbus? If you could quote me somewhere on that, I'd appreciate it.

I simply don't buy the notion that "new cities" can just come and be fine art and cultural capitals. I feel like that era has already come to an end. Places like Columbus, Austin, Denver, Raleigh, etc can be fine places to live, but they just don't get the same interest and investment as in older cities, whose legacies of these types began an a very opportune and unique moment in US history. Not saying Columbus isn't good for other things, but the idea that it competes with Cleveland in fine arts I find to be quite unsupported. That's all.

This is not a personal affront to anybody, chill.
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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I go to severance hall to see the Great Cleveland orchestra..it truly is one of the best and most respected in the world..Ohios best arts organization by a mile.Cincy has a good but not special orchestra.As for arts museums..Toledo has the most internationally recognized in ohio..compared to the major arts museums..ohio has nothing other than Toledo that people outside ohio would know about.Everybody who has ever listened to classical music knows the Cleveland orchestra..btw,even the peasants in columbus..And dont be surprised if columbus improves its own institutions to as good or better level than the other c's..well except for the Cleveland orchestra

Why don't you educate yourself. Read about the The Cleveland Apollo, the Benkaim Collection, or any of the other recent acquisitions. Check out some of the Durer prints. Check out the The Crucifixion of Saint Andrew or The Holy Family on the Steps. It would be helpful if people, such as yourself, educate themselves rather than spreading false information.
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:00 PM
 
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The generic label that people put on the newer growth cities of being bland..it's become cliche..where you have growth,better incomes etc..there is an excitement that kinda trumps the old money endowments in some ways..having lived in several big cities across the USA..I love the legacy attractions..but to say these other cities have no culture is absurd..the largest migration to columbus is Cleveland folks,and Detroit etc..and international too.Btw..the Columbus casino looks like it will be the most successful..and better positioned for future success..the location criticized by many here..is a factor .
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Old 02-25-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Duluth, GA
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The funny about this is da I already post da haha haha
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:24 PM
 
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The generic label that people put on the newer growth cities of being bland..it's become cliche..where you have growth,better incomes etc..there is an excitement that kinda trumps the old money endowments in some ways..having lived in several big cities across the USA..I love the legacy attractions..but to say these other cities have no culture is absurd..the largest migration to columbus is Cleveland folks,and Detroit etc..and international too.Btw..the Columbus casino looks like it will be the most successful..and better positioned for future success..the location criticized by many here..is a factor .
Is there data that supports this statement?
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Old 02-25-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Is there data that supports this statement?
Yes. Here were the Columbus metro's top net domestic migration origin metros for the 2009-2013 period. At least 200 Net:


Cleveland: 3,380
Cincinnati: 1,865
Detroit: 890
Youngstown: 790
Dayton: 770
Akron: 518
Canton: 483
Toledo: 451
Phoenix, AZ: 346
Washington, DC: 335
Chicago, IL: 330
Lima, OH: 330
El Paso, TX: 280
Bremerton, WA: 271
Parkersburg, WV: 259
Elkhart, IN: 240
Pittsburgh, PA: 239
Greensboro, NC: 221
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Old 02-25-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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Yes. Here were the Columbus metro's top net domestic migration origin metros for the 2009-2013 period. At least 200 Net:


Cleveland: 3,380
Cincinnati: 1,865
Detroit: 890
Youngstown: 790
Dayton: 770
Akron: 518
Canton: 483
Toledo: 451
Phoenix, AZ: 346
Washington, DC: 335
Chicago, IL: 330
Lima, OH: 330
El Paso, TX: 280
Bremerton, WA: 271
Parkersburg, WV: 259
Elkhart, IN: 240
Pittsburgh, PA: 239
Greensboro, NC: 221
What's the source of the information?

Is there a link?
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:43 PM
 
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What's the source of the information?

Is there a link?
Migration/Geographic Mobility - Metro Area-to-Metro Area Migration Flows - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau
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Old 02-26-2016, 01:00 AM
 
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Thanks. The spreadsheet says it is for 2009-2013, so this appears to be the change over a 5-year period, or about 700 persons/year.

Although Cleveland and Columbus now have the same unemployment rates at 3.9 percent, Cleveland entered the Great Recession much more quickly than Columbus and its unemployment rate stayed elevated much longer. The Cleveland unemployment rate was still 1.8 percent higher than Columbus in Feb. of 2014.

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CLEV439URN

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/COLU139URN

If the Cleveland and Columbus unemployment rates now stay relatively equal, it will be interesting to see what happens to that migration amount in future five-year periods.
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