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Old 06-15-2012, 07:04 PM
 
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In case you are wondering, your tech support probably could have retrieved your data but once they saw your password they did not bother. They probably were thinking the same thing about you once they read your password.
Why don't you ask me if I cared one way or the other?

It's a company system using a company LAN connecting to the Internet using company supplied equipment. They are paying me to use it so they have every right to tell me how to use it...

BTW, I was a resource tech support used when they had a problem that they needed advice on and was one of the staff that recommended the password cracker tech support is currently using to test people's passwords.....

When I said "they" I was talking about management, not the IT staff....

Management and some other people don't seem to understand that forcing people to change their passwords on a monthly basis leads to being able to walk over to almost anyone's desk and find their password(s) somewhere on or near their desk or written on a stickie underneath their keyboard....
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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When I worked as a consultant at a bank:

1. Look at the edges of the monitor.
2. Look under the keyboard.
3. Look at the bottom of the keyboard.
4. Open the top drawer.
5. Ask the person at the next desk.

100% hit rate.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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I have a pretty bad memory, so I devised this:

I make up a sentence with 6-8 words that means something to me, involving a location. Then I use the first letter from each word in the sentence. Example, "I Used To Live In Washington." Then I bury a number at a sensible break that has something to do with that location. Example, IUTLI495W — I Used To Live In Washington, with the 495 indicating the route number of the DC Beltway. To me, it's much easier to remember a sentence than random letters and it avoids a single word that someone or some program might guess. If an employer requires something as complicated as Skunk Workz says, you can add a symbol or punctuation and if uc/lc is required, capitalize the I or name of the place i#utli495W. That seems pretty random, doesn't it?

If I had to change it four times a year, I could still keep a basic sentence, but revise it slightly. iH!w238ff, ih.w339fS = I Hate working for frank (with my office number), I hate working for Sally (with my phone number), etc.
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:06 AM
 
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lol

This seems like a good place to discuss the idea for folks that aren't sure how to create good passwords.

Good Password methods:

Pick your word and replace some of the characters with numbers that look so similar it is easy for you to remember.
and capitalize the first or last letter.

Example:
Use the word "northeast"
N0rthe4st
"speaker"
sp34k3R

Anyone have other tips?
Here's what my passwords look like:

GXJGFcJX7PgE97pCUbcV2kxYuq5Z8qyshp9RuoRBR7BovmYMAq xnPx5EcvgvM3cE

I'll shorten as necessary...


I use a password locker to generate and store them. You can store the password file and the application can be ran on USB memory stick if necessary. The password file is encrytpted and requires a password but it's the only one you have to remember.

Keepass is free. KeePass Password Safe
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:55 AM
 
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Here's what my passwords look like:

GXJGFcJX7PgE97pCUbcV2kxYuq5Z8qyshp9RuoRBR7BovmYMAq xnPx5EcvgvM3cE

I'll shorten as necessary...


I use a password locker to generate and store them. You can store the password file and the application can be ran on USB memory stick if necessary. The password file is encrytpted and requires a password but it's the only one you have to remember.

Keepass is free. KeePass Password Safe
I use LastPass to generate and store random password. I don't use anything that long though because I do occasionally have to enter them by hand, and sometimes on a device with a poor keyboard.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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I use LastPass to generate and store random password. I don't use anything that long though because I do occasionally have to enter them by hand, and sometimes on a device with a poor keyboard.
Yes I adjust accordingly, the wifi doesn't have such a long password. Root access for my server does.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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After creating your admin-approved, uber-high security password, be sure to write it on a PostIt and stick it to your monitor, so that your boss can see that it's good.
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Matthews, NC
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You can tell a lot about a person from their password. The worst end users to deal with were usually the ones with a religious themed password (at my company anyway). Anytime you would see the password Iamblessed101 you knew you would probably be dealing with a difficult person.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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You can tell a lot about a person from their password. The worst end users to deal with were usually the ones with a religious themed password (at my company anyway). Anytime you would see the password Iamblessed101 you knew you would probably be dealing with a difficult person.
My experience says, "Amen to that."
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:15 PM
 
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I have a tendency to use (non) obvious things. A book I read and enjoyed combined with my childhood phone number, which only had 5 digits, or my first street address, which is no longer in existence. My first dogs name interspersed with my maternal grandfathers middle name and the last two addresses I've had. That's an easily remembered 14 character PW. I do use non-ascii in the midst and uc lc combos as well. Easy for me to remember, but virtually impossible for anyone else to figure out.

^fJ#3iA5dM3oE5S4+

fido
JAMES
35354

The carat is the shifted 6 (f is the sixth letter). # starts numbers. + is the last shifted character in the top row so it's the last character in the PW.

I've been known to use a bastardized version of the name of my monitor.
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