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Old 03-13-2012, 09:28 PM
 
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Since it's going to be a one-time thing, I'd encrypt the photos and only leave the FTP up until she's finished downloading.

But wouldn't it just be easier to send 2 dvds or a usb drive via mail?
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:45 PM
 
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If you are behind a router then you'll have to set up / forward the passive ports. Do a search for IIS FTP Passive mode and you should get some good info.

If you can't get the IIS Ftp running easily, you can set up Filezilla Server. I run it on my 2003 and 2008 boxes, and configuration is fairly straight forward.

You might also check that your ISP doesn't block port 21. If they do you can just specify an alternate port, and have your sister use it on her client.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:09 PM
 
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Since it's going to be a one-time thing, I'd encrypt the photos and only leave the FTP up until she's finished downloading.

But wouldn't it just be easier to send 2 dvds or a usb drive via mail?
It's a one time thing now, but if it works out well, I might make it a regular thing. It's easier than waiting for Dropbox to upload everything, have her download it, rinse, repeat, etc.

And, it might be easier to ship off a few DVDs, but it takes a lot longer. She's been compiling an album of the last twenty years of family photos for our grandparents. I'm just tasked with scanning in everything here, while she gets to do all the creative work.

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If you are behind a router then you'll have to set up / forward the passive ports. Do a search for IIS FTP Passive mode and you should get some good info.

If you can't get the IIS Ftp running easily, you can set up Filezilla Server. I run it on my 2003 and 2008 boxes, and configuration is fairly straight forward.

You might also check that your ISP doesn't block port 21. If they do you can just specify an alternate port, and have your sister use it on her client.
I set up port-forwarding, and I have no problem connecting internally. I can't connect using my external IP for some reason--but apparently it's working. I just read on Filezilla's wikia that you should not be able to connect to your own FTP externally, and if you can, something is probably wrong.

So I sent her the IP address and it worked. So, that's great.

I am using Windows 7 IIS (IIS 7, if I recall correctly), and it's working just fine. I checked to make sure Comcast wasn't blocking port 21, which seemed like a pretty ridiculous idea. They aren't. I'm using a non-standard port anyway just in case.

But, more about the security part. Do I have any real worries about leaving the port open? I can turn off the port-forward within DDWRT, but like I said, I might just leave this around as a regular thing if it works that well.

Would I be better off migrating this to a separate box, or into a VM (likely on a separate box)?
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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Open Port Check Tool

Will test if the port is being forwarded, and the port is open on the host.
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Wandering.
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It's a one time thing now, but if it works out well, I might make it a regular thing. It's easier than waiting for Dropbox to upload everything, have her download it, rinse, repeat, etc.

And, it might be easier to ship off a few DVDs, but it takes a lot longer. She's been compiling an album of the last twenty years of family photos for our grandparents. I'm just tasked with scanning in everything here, while she gets to do all the creative work.



I set up port-forwarding, and I have no problem connecting internally. I can't connect using my external IP for some reason--but apparently it's working. I just read on Filezilla's wikia that you should not be able to connect to your own FTP externally, and if you can, something is probably wrong.

So I sent her the IP address and it worked. So, that's great.

I am using Windows 7 IIS (IIS 7, if I recall correctly), and it's working just fine. I checked to make sure Comcast wasn't blocking port 21, which seemed like a pretty ridiculous idea. They aren't. I'm using a non-standard port anyway just in case.

But, more about the security part. Do I have any real worries about leaving the port open? I can turn off the port-forward within DDWRT, but like I said, I might just leave this around as a regular thing if it works that well.

Would I be better off migrating this to a separate box, or into a VM (likely on a separate box)?
It is ridiculous, Verizon blocks 21, 25, 80, etc on residential accounts. We've run into a number of ISP's that block outbound 25 unless it's connecting to their own SMTP servers as well.

As for security on the port. If you have only forwarded a port that's in use, then it's not a big deal, as long as the app listening on that port is configured securely. It's even less of an issue if you've used a non standard port, since most of the scanners are just making passes at known port numbers, and then trying to exploit them.

The two things that I'd make sure of (I don't know what the IIS FTP offers as far as options go): that you can block by IP based on failed log in attempts, and that you aren't allowing anonymous connections.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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based on your needs - I think Skunk Workz covered it pretty well. One other option you can do is insert an access rule to only allow your sister's IP. But that may be more than its worth if her IP changes often....

Although it does provide some privacy as well with the data that is sitting there. Not saying family photos need to be kept secret or anything.. but its still personal property that one may not want to just have sitting out in the open.
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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Default Can't access internal FTP\CRM with external IP

I've been trying to troubleshoot why I can't connect to my CRM using my external IP address, and enlisted the help of a mook in a different city to help. He has absolutely no problem connecting with the address, but me, inside my network, I cannot connect to my CRM (or my FTP) using my external address. I have no problem, obviously, connecting using my internal address or localhost, but I can't do it with my external IP while I'm inside my network.

Any idea what's going on?
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Republic of Texas
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I've been trying to troubleshoot why I can't connect to my CRM using my external IP address, and enlisted the help of a mook in a different city to help. He has absolutely no problem connecting with the address, but me, inside my network, I cannot connect to my CRM (or my FTP) using my external address. I have no problem, obviously, connecting using my internal address or localhost, but I can't do it with my external IP while I'm inside my network.

Any idea what's going on?
You are trying to do what is known as "NAT loopback". Some routers support this function. I believe most do not out of the box. Go through your router settings to see if you can enable it.

Any reason why you can't live with connecting using the LAN IP? Especially since you know it works from the outside already?
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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You are trying to do what is known as "NAT loopback". Some routers support this function. I believe most do not out of the box. Go through your router settings to see if you can enable it.

Any reason why you can't live with connecting using the LAN IP? Especially since you know it works from the outside already?
I only know it works because I happened to have someone I could use at the time to troubleshoot my problems. I'd like to basically make sure that whatever changes I make, will work outside of my network while I'm inside of it.

I'm running DD-WRT, and I'm reading here that versions older than 14929 for the Asus RT-N16 dont' support NAT loopback. That's good to know!

Any way to fool it, or do I need to run through my phone as a 3G connection to test my network problems?
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Republic of Texas
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I only know it works because I happened to have someone I could use at the time to troubleshoot my problems. I'd like to basically make sure that whatever changes I make, will work outside of my network while I'm inside of it.

I'm running DD-WRT, and I'm reading here that versions older than 14929 for the Asus RT-N16 dont' support NAT loopback. That's good to know!

Any way to fool it, or do I need to run through my phone as a 3G connection to test my network problems?
Can you get an FTP client for your phone and just try to connect any time you make changes on your server?

Not sure if a proxy would work. If you can VPN or rdp into your office or another machine somewhere else that would work.
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