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Old 02-17-2019, 02:15 AM
 
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Laser printers are power hogs for sure. The smallest printers will use about 800w while warming up, and 250w while printing. ...
While this goes back to the question of how often
the printer will be used, in most places, commercial
power it pretty cheap. At 10 cents a KWH, this isn't
adding over one cent to the cost of a page (assuming
an average 5 page print job).
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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An update. I decided to order an Epson Expression Home XP-440 Small-in-One Printer for $51.79. The listing says ink cartridges are included. The seller has very limited feedback, so I'm not 100% positive the deal is legitimate. But the deal was too good to pass up. The ink alone is worth almost $51.

Thanks for all the suggestions. You all made a lot of good points. But I decided to go with something that I know that if I don't already have the drivers for I can download them easily. Looking into some of the suggestions here, I couldn't find any support for my operation system. The Epson I know will work. I am a little disappointed at the cost of the ink. It looks like I will be paying about three times more for ink, then what I have been paying. But that can't be helped.

Thanks again for the recommendations.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:09 PM
 
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An update. I decided to order an Epson Expression Home XP-440 Small-in-One Printer for $51.79. The listing says ink cartridges are included. The seller has very limited feedback, so I'm not 100% positive the deal is legitimate. But the deal was too good to pass up. The ink alone is worth almost $51.

Thanks for all the suggestions. You all made a lot of good points. But I decided to go with something that I know that if I don't already have the drivers for I can download them easily. Looking into some of the suggestions here, I couldn't find any support for my operation system. The Epson I know will work. I am a little disappointed at the cost of the ink. It looks like I will be paying about three times more for ink, then what I have been paying. But that can't be helped.

Thanks again for the recommendations.
All cheap printers come with ink - new. But, it is not always a full tank of ink. Sometimes it is a "starter pack."

Realize that all printer manufacturers will have a website that allows you to download drivers. Not just Epson does that.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:14 PM
 
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i've had good luck buying laser printers from thrift stores. About $20
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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Laser printers are power hogs for sure. The smallest printers will use about 800w while warming up, and 250w while printing. Not enough to blow a fuse unless you have 2 or 3 warming up at the same time on the same fuse.

The home office printers are reaching 1200-1600 watts while warming up in an effort to get the first page out faster.

A lot more than the 30-40 watts used while an inkjet is printing.
The peak power is meaningless without knowing how long it's on. The standby power is probably like 20 to 40 watts. 1600 watts is 1.6kw. 1kw for an hour is like 5 to 15 cents. If the printer takes 6 minutes at 1600 watts to heat up, that's 0.16kwh or about 2 cents. It probably doesn't take that long, so the cost is less. I'm confident the power used by any printer is trivial. Your coffee pot uses more.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:58 PM
 
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An update. I decided to order an Epson Expression Home XP-440 Small-in-One Printer for $51.79. The listing says ink cartridges are included. The seller has very limited feedback, so I'm not 100% positive the deal is legitimate. But the deal was too good to pass up. The ink alone is worth almost $51.

Thanks for all the suggestions. You all made a lot of good points. But I decided to go with something that I know that if I don't already have the drivers for I can download them easily. Looking into some of the suggestions here, I couldn't find any support for my operation system. The Epson I know will work. I am a little disappointed at the cost of the ink. It looks like I will be paying about three times more for ink, then what I have been paying. But that can't be helped.

Thanks again for the recommendations.
Great choice. I love the photo quality of this printer. Very very expensive cost of ink and expensive to run. But prints great photos and has lots of features (supports android, ios, etc.).

As long as you rarely print, good.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:56 AM
 
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I purchased an HP Officejet Pro 8710 for about $100. It is fantastic. Scanner, copier and printer all in one device. Fast and has two sided printing. I have had several of the $50 inkjets and $100 laser printers. They all have limitations. I would highly recommend the HP Officejet Pro 8710. It is a large footprint device so be prepared.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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All cheap printers come with ink - new. But, it is not always a full tank of ink. Sometimes it is a "starter pack."

Realize that all printer manufacturers will have a website that allows you to download drivers. Not just Epson does that.
Actually the one I was looking at before was $49 with ink cartridges not included. The listing made that very clear. Maybe they were selling the cartridges separately. This one is $3 more but included the ink.

The ink is about $36 for third party ink. Which is way above the $10 I have been paying for ink.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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Great choice. I love the photo quality of this printer. Very very expensive cost of ink and expensive to run. But prints great photos and has lots of features (supports android, ios, etc.).

As long as you rarely print, good.
It seemed to be the best choice. I don't even care about the Android or iOS support. I just need it to have drivers, that are compatible with Mac OS 10.6. Epson has support for pretty much every version of OSX. I have a bunch of stuff that I need get printed. If I can't find drivers for the printer, it's not going to do me a lot of good.
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Old 03-07-2019, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Just an update. The Epson Expression Home XP-440 seems to be working fine for me. I had to download some drivers on my computers. But after doing that and configuring the software, it all worked as I had hoped. I did have a little bit of trouble getting it to connect to my network, but I got that straightened out.

I'm really impressed with the size, for an all in one printer. I have the XP-440 sharing a shelf with an old flatbed scanner. My old Epson Stylus R280 took up the entire shelf by itself. This is the first all in one printer I have owned. It's kind of nice having the printer and scanner software combined. I will probably be able to make good use of the copy feature to. It will be nice to be able to copy documents without having to first scan them.

Now the one negative I have found. After just a few test prints, and printing a handful of documents, the black ink is noticeable lower already. If that is going to be typical of ink usage, my days of going over a year between swapping out ink cartridges is gone. But I'm going to wait and see how that pans out. The next challenge will be seeing how third party ink works.

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