[Off-beat]

Originally Posted by gtmo

It depends on how you buy them. You can't do it through ad campaigns but you can do it through pork-barrel spending and bailouts.

At the point where you directly invest in the general welfare of the people, you are no longer "buying" the people.

The right loves throwing around terms like "pork-barrel spending" to make their own attempts to actually buy the public seem legitimate.

[gtmo]

Originally Posted by Off-beat

At the point where you directly invest in the general welfare of the people, you are no longer "buying" the people.

The right loves throwing around terms like "pork-barrel spending" to make their own attempts to actually buy the public seem legitimate.

Youur second sentence contradicts your first sentence.

If you think that politicians aren't trying to buy votes when they decide where to spend money, you are delusional. It's done on both sides of the aisle. Every move that is made in Washington is done with the next election in mind. It's the biggest problem with our system because nobody there will ever make the tough decision.

[wavehunter007]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

Decency?
Strong middle class = Strong country?
Being a Human Being?
Not being a sociopath?
Jesus?

All sorts of good reasons...

Many of us "fully developed" human beings agree...and understand that what seperates us humans from wild animals.

[hartford_renter]

Originally Posted by Off-beat

At the point where you directly invest in the general welfare of the people, you are no longer "buying" the people.

The right loves throwing around terms like "pork-barrel spending" to make their own attempts to actually buy the public seem legitimate.

The republicans want to cut spending and reduce taxes. The only way they buy people is by letting them keep more of their own money.

What makes the democrats think they have the right to take more of my money spend more and put us in more debt?

[blakesq]

They have the right because we are knuckle dragging racist homophobes. Thus they can ignore the consti' to buy votes, because its for our own good.

Originally Posted by hartford_renter

The republicans want to cut spending and reduce taxes. The only way they buy people is by letting them keep more of their own money.

What makes the democrats think they have the right to take more of my money spend more and put us in more debt?

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[hartford_renter]

Originally Posted by blakesq

They have the right because we are knuckle dragging racist homophobes. Thus they can ignore the consti' to buy votes, because its for our own good.




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You are saying its ok to raise taxes and increase spending against racist homophobes?

Is this the democratic argument?

It's sounds like you need to believe in a certain narrative... The rich are evil, and there is a group of racist homophobes who need to be punished so let's raise taxes.

Um... You are the reason Obama got reelected and misinformed people like yourself will bankrupt this country with massive amounts of spending.

[blakesq]

It is the democrat argument. NOt my argument.

Originally Posted by hartford_renter

You are saying its ok to raise taxes and increase spending against racist homophobes?

Is this the democratic argument?

It's sounds like you need to believe in a certain narrative... The rich are evil, and there is a group of racist homophobes who need to be punished so let's raise taxes.

Um... You are the reason Obama got reelected and misinformed people like yourself will bankrupt this country with massive amounts of spending.

[Wilton2ParkAve]

Putting political party aside, I am very confused about this past election. Congress had a record low 8% approval rating which speaks for itself. By then we essentially vote for a bigger government that we can't stand. Seems a bit conflicting.

[hartford_renter]

Originally Posted by Wilton2ParkAve

Putting political party aside, I am very confused about this past election. Congress had a record low 8% approval rating which speaks for itself. By then we essentially vote for a bigger government that we can't stand. Seems a bit conflicting.

Connecticut is a very democratic state it voted 100% democrat in the election

[gtmo]

Originally Posted by Wilton2ParkAve

Putting political party aside, I am very confused about this past election. Congress had a record low 8% approval rating which speaks for itself. By then we essentially vote for a bigger government that we can't stand. Seems a bit conflicting.

Everybody thinks that their congressmen are good, and that the problem lies in the representatives from other states. It's also a failed system. We all know that the government spends way too much money, but every incumbent candidate runs on a platform built around what he has brought to the state. I can't vote out all congressmen, but I can vote for the guy who will bring the most money back to my state.