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Old 12-07-2012, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Oil is the most expensive way to heat. Install a wood stove or pellet stove. Home Depot and Lowes had pellets for $180 a ton a few months ago. That would make a pellet stove, at that price almost %70 cheaper for the same amount of heat.

Comparing the Cost of Heating Fuels Type of Energy

BTU/unit Adj Effic $/unit $/MMBtu

Fuel Oil, gallon 138,200 80% $3.80 $34.37
Kerosene, gallon 136,600 80% $4.20 $38.43
Propane, gallon 91,600 80% $2.96 $40.39
Natural Gas, therm 100,000 80% $1.54 $19.31
Electricity, kwh 3,412 100% $0.15 $43.46
Wood, cord (green) 60% $190.00 $14.39
Pellets, ton 16,400,000 80% $247.00 $18.83
The electric numbers are decieving there because it doesnt factor in wattage useage. In other words, you need a ton of watts to create the same heat oil can give. And wood can move to the bottom of the list at ZERO cost if someone is willing to get up from the couch and split themselves. Or just rent a machine for $60 and split 3 cords of free wood dropped by arborists. I havent used a drop of oil yet. Love it. No complaints from me. Let it be 50 below for 6 months, heat would still be free.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Apex NC
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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I believe come January these wind chill value temps will shift East. Gonna be a good month for energy companies next month. These are current wind chill values. Pinks are the arctic air.

I'm holding off on filling still.

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Old 12-09-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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I believe come January these wind chill value temps will shift East. Gonna be a good month for energy companies next month. These are current wind chill values. Pinks are the arctic air.

I'm holding off on filling still.
Wind chill is a measure of how cold it feels to exposed skin. How does this translate into effecting heating bills? I would think the actual temperature is what drives heating costs, not the wind chill value.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:54 AM
 
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I personally don't use these guys as I'm already locked in elsewhere (at too high of a price unfortunately), but they seem to be quite inexpensive:

Colonial Sanitation
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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Never lock in if you live on the East Coast below Boston:

Cold is always touch and go most winters...and if a mild start to winter happens (exactly like what’s going on now) those prices will tumble because they (oil sellers) get nervous they have only 2 months of winter left. Look what’s happened this week, gas prices are falling like rock. With the rest of December expected to be warmer than average, prices will continue to fall right to early/mid January. After that, you have them on the ropes because they have to unload all that oil in less 60 days – lol.

Never lock-in. Ever. It’s a scam that only benifits them not you..
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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Never lock in if you live on the East Coast below Boston:

Cold is always touch and go most winters...and if a mild start to winter happens (exactly like what’s going on now) those prices will tumble because they (oil sellers) get nervous they have only 2 months of winter left. Look what’s happened this week, gas prices are falling like rock. With the rest of December expected to be warmer than average, prices will continue to fall right to early/mid January. After that, you have them on the ropes because they have to unload all that oil in less 60 days – lol.

Never lock-in. Ever. It’s a scam that only benifits them not you..

Right and when we the middle east goes crazy again and prices go through the roof, good luck paying over $4 per gallon on delivery prices. There are pros and cons to both approaches, its not as simple as some folks on here make it out to be unforrunately. Its a matter of personal preference and what the individual feels comfortable with.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Wind chill is a measure of how cold it feels to exposed skin. How does this translate into effecting heating bills? I would think the actual temperature is what drives heating costs, not the wind chill value.
Just saw this. Sorry. So you are saying a wind chill value of 0 wont increase heating bills because the actual temperature is 20 instead?

If anything... Think of it like this.. Wind chill value means there is "wind" that is making it feel much colder. With wind, comes drafts and a harder time for a home to stay warm. The heat in the home is carried away more so the furnace kicks on many more times when there is a wind chill of single digits and temp in the teens compared to no wind and temps in the Teens.

Thats why its good to plant trees on the northside of home as a windbreak, to break the "wind" from hitting the house.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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Never lock in if you live on the East Coast below Boston:

Cold is always touch and go most winters...and if a mild start to winter happens (exactly like what’s going on now) those prices will tumble because they (oil sellers) get nervous they have only 2 months of winter left. Look what’s happened this week, gas prices are falling like rock. With the rest of December expected to be warmer than average, prices will continue to fall right to early/mid January. After that, you have them on the ropes because they have to unload all that oil in less 60 days – lol.

Never lock-in. Ever. It’s a scam that only benifits them not you..
What happens if a cold winter starts to happen?
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:27 AM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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What happens if a cold winter starts to happen?

Not enough flu shots....oil shortages.... rice shortages (remember that one from a few years ago - lol)...the Cabbage Patch craze....etc.

It's all marketing...

They NEED you to think you'll get caught short with something you need (or better still you won't be able to afford it ).

If it gets cold you'll get oil - and the price will be fixed no matter what the temp is. There is a glut of oil in the world (and going up ever day). You'll be fine.

We have to lean to play them....not the other way around.
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