[Lincolnian]

Lieberman and Dodd must go, especially Dodd. After this financial meltdown, Dodd, Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, should be shown the door and replaced with someone with a higher degree of integrity.

[old biddie]

Originally Posted by Ourdreamhouse

Regardless of what we may think of Joe Lieberman (I don't have strong feelings one way or the other), your post was illuminating for what it revealed about why some people continue to insist that GWB "stole" the 1980 election from Gore.

Lieberman won his 2006 election because he got more votes than anyone else, fair and square. To use the words "stole" and "stealing" is not only inflammatory, it's factually incorrect. It's the kind of language that has characterized and exacerbated the partisan wrangling that has made the current political process so dysfuntional, and against which Obama campaigned for change. (BTW, both Republicans and Democrats have been guilty of harming the process, with their language and their behavior.)

Obama was elected, in part, because he promised to conduct the political process without resorting to the kind of language you use. I sincerely hope that he is successful.

Lieberman lost the Democratic primary to Ned Lamont, he then ran as an independent, against Republican, Schlesinger. In this way, he got whatever Democratic vote he got in the priamary plus all of the Republican vote that did not go to Schlesinger, who by the way, republicans were not that excited about in the first place.
He did the math, and you should too. Don't bore us with trying to talk about conduct as you try to turn this thing around. And don't waste my time in starting a rant like you did by saying, "I don't have strong feelings one way or the other;" it's obvious you do.

[Americanboy]

Obama needs to punish him!!

I can't stand him and he didn't represent his constituents in Connecticut when he stood alongside Palin (grinning) with her racist bigot supporters in Podunk spewing disparaging remarks about President-elect Obama.

I was so disgusted.

[LoneStarJerry]

I thought this was America, and if it is then Joe Lieberman has the right to endorse whoever he wishes regardless of his party. Colon Powell is a Republican and endorsed Obama, and whether you agree or disagree with that he had the right to do so. I find it absolutely ridiculous that the minute anyone doesn't practically worship Obama that all of a sudden there are consequences to deal with.

[old biddie]

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[Rich Lee]

Originally Posted by kylehny

Obama needs to punish him!!

I can't stand him and he didn't represent his constituents in Connecticut when he stood alongside Palin (grinning) with her racist bigot supporters in Podunk spewing disparaging remarks about President-elect Obama.

I was so disgusted.

Finally, someone has said it. He often votes for what's in his best interest, not his constituents'.

[Ourdreamhouse]

Originally Posted by old biddie

Lieberman lost the Democratic primary to Ned Lamont, he then ran as an independent, against Republican, Schlesinger. In this way, he got whatever Democratic vote he got in the priamary plus all of the Republican vote that did not go to Schlesinger, who by the way, republicans were not that excited about in the first place.
He did the math, and you should too. Don't bore us with trying to talk about conduct as you try to turn this thing around. And don't waste my time in starting a rant like you did by saying, "I don't have strong feelings one way or the other;" it's obvious you do.

In case you missed it, the math appeared earlier in this thread:

Originally Posted by Rich Lee

The results from the Schlesinger-Lamont-Lieberman race are as follows:

109,239 (10%) - Schlesinger (R)
448,077 (40%) - Lamont (L)
563,725 (50%) - Lieberman (O)

Source: CNN.com - Elections 2006

Hey, I don't follow CT politics closely; Lieberman may well be the kind of selfish person/politician that some here claim.

But i do know math, and unless he did something illegal, the word "stole" is, like i said earlier, incorrect and inflammatory.

[JViello]

Originally Posted by Rich Lee

Finally, someone has said it. He often votes for what's in his best interest, not his constituents'.

Okay lets play follow the bouncing ball:

This thread says Ned Lamont got most of the Democratic vote and Lieberman got most of the Republican vote by running as in independant in CT.

It then accusses Joe of "not representing his constituants" because he endorsed a Republican.

Based on the logic of this thread, I would say Joe did in fact represent the Republicans that supposedly got him elected in CT as an independent by supporting a Republican.



Joe's job as OUR representative is to govern our wishes, but also make macro decisions on what he feels is the best choice FOR his constituants. That's how it works in a representative Republic like the USA is.

[Rich Lee]

Originally Posted by JViello

It then accuses Joe of "not representing his constituents" because he endorsed a Republican.

No it doesn't. When polled, the overwhelming majority of Connecticut citizens didn't/don't support the war in Iraq. Senators and Representatives are supposed to honor/reflect their constituents' views. This is the single argument on which Democrats feel Sen. Lieberman abandoned his constituents AND the platform on which Ned Lamont ran. This was before Lieberman supported/endorsed Mc Cain.

Originally Posted by JViello

Joe's job as OUR representative is to govern our wishes but also make macro decisions on what he feels is the best choice FOR his constituents. That's how it works in a representative republic like the USA.

I totally agree. And if his argument isn't convincing to his constituents, he stands the risk of not being re-elected regardless of how sound his judgment proved to be.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by Rich Lee

I've heard that Mc Cain wasn't able to have any of his first three picks (Lieberman, Pawlenty, or Ridge) because they didn't have socially conversative beliefs. I wasn't aware how/why Palin was chosen.

Well then the Republicans shot themselves in the foot because many of the Democrats here in Greater Scranton who led President-Elect Obama to a victory margin of roughly 65/35 here WOULD have selected Sen. McCain if his choice in Gov. Palin had NOT turned us off. That's right. Me, Mr. Social Liberal himself, would have voted for Sen. McCain had he NOT alienated me by selecting that pea-brained bigot as his running mate. By re-energizing their "conservative base" they destroyed their chances with most moderates and independents. It was a wash for them.