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Honestly, in my experience, black women are the most aggressive angry, physically violent people I have ever been around. I have had 3 of them physically threaten me over nonsense. I, 1) honked at one lady to pull ahead in the drive-through - she got OUT OF HER CAR and practically came through my car window, 2) got into a parking space that a lady clearly wanted (yes, I was there first....she tried to push her way in when the guy pulled out) - she cussed me out and threatened to BITE me , and 3) I admonished a lady for allowing a friend to join her in the checkout line ahead of several others (friend had a whole crap-ton of items). All of these women were black - and they ALL went freaking off the road. I have never had these experiences with women of other races.
And what does this crapola have to do with the OP?
OK, here's something to think about and discuss. If the woman who ended up being attacked had been armed, either legally (CCW license) or not, and had shot this woman/mother who not only verbally attacked her but then physically attacked her, actually laying in wait for her to exit the store, (it seems intentional as she didn't have her child with her), would she/should she be charged with anything, or even with murder if the attacker had died?
OK, here's something to think about and discuss. If the woman who ended up being attacked had been armed, either legally (CCW license) or not, and had shot this woman/mother who not only verbally attacked her but then physically attacked her, actually laying in wait for her to exit the store, (it seems intentional as she didn't have her child with her), would she/should she be charged with anything, or even with murder if the attacker had died?
Good topic and it probably depends on which state it happens. If the lady was on top of her the shooting could be justified here in TX. One can only guess what would happen in NYC or Chicago.
If the lady had been shot while on top of the victim, we could have a case similar to Treyvon Martin.
Good topic and it probably depends on which state it happens. If the lady was on top of her the shooting could be justified here in TX. One can only guess what would happen in NYC or Chicago.
If the lady had been shot while on top of the victim, we could have a case similar to Treyvon Martin.
I disagree, the Martin case isn't even remotely similar, at least not by the facts.
It's definitely not murder, it wasn't premeditated. She would be charged with homicide and I doubt a jury in any state would find her guilty. It doesn't need to get as far as her being on top of her beating her down. If she is struck and she fears for her life, she can use force, the defense would be that there was no intent to kill the woman, even if she happened to kill her with one bullet to the head. It's one reason that that I personally will never get into a physical altercation in public, not unless you know the parties involved have no weapons, but in today's world that is never the case (not in the USA anyway).
OK, here's something to think about and discuss. If the woman who ended up being attacked had been armed, either legally (CCW license) or not, and had shot this woman/mother who not only verbally attacked her but then physically attacked her, actually laying in wait for her to exit the store, (it seems intentional as she didn't have her child with her), would she/should she be charged with anything, or even with murder if the attacker had died?
How could a situation like that be murder? Makes no sense.
She would be defending herself against a blatant cowardly attack. She might be charged at first but should get no time in that hypothetical situation.
But she still should have minded her own business and not said anything. The right thing to do was to not say anything to the stranger with the unruly child and just deal with that bit of inconvenience for a couple of minutes.
Except the mother forced her way into many people's lives by allowing her child to get out of control in a public place. If she can't handle the critique maybe she should stay at home.
I've been in stores where tantrums are happening, and it doesn't look like the parents are allowing it. Looks like they're irritated and helpless. Those little angels probably know they won't get spanked in public so that's where they get to go nuts. I stay far away from it.
OK, here's something to think about and discuss. If the woman who ended up being attacked had been armed, either legally (CCW license) or not, and had shot this woman/mother who not only verbally attacked her but then physically attacked her, actually laying in wait for her to exit the store, (it seems intentional as she didn't have her child with her), would she/should she be charged with anything, or even with murder if the attacker had died?
Imo, the woman that was attacked would have been charged with something other than murder (manslaughter) because of the fact that she had a weapon on her and the jury would have wondered if she was looking for a confrontation in the first place and an excuse to use her weapon.
Regardless, as most are saying she should have minded her own damn business.
I've been in stores where tantrums are happening, and it doesn't look like the parents are allowing it. Looks like they're irritated and helpless. Those little angels probably know they won't get spanked in public so that's where they get to go nuts. I stay far away from it.
LOL, like it's planned or something. Please.
I'm sure hitting them is going to make things so much better. If anything that will only make it worse as now the child has to cry.
Instead, it's the responsibility of the parent to remove them from the situation ASAP. If it's a continuous problem then don't take your child out in a public place like that.
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