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Old 11-25-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: IN>Germany>ND>OH>TX>CA>Currently NoVa and a Vacation Lake House in PA
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He's lucky it wasn't my daughter he assaulted. Writer her up, send her to the principle, whatever. What he did was way out of line, and he doesn't deserve to be teaching children.
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Old 11-25-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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Right.

Because we're no longer what we used to be.

And what was that?

A country that enslaved an entire race.
A country that herd another race onto reservations, where they could either die of abuse during the herding or neglect upon arrival.
A country that had no child-labor laws, so children toiled and died in mines and textile mills.
A country where it was fully legal in all 50 states for a man to rape his wife.
A country where a gay person who dared admit it was either killed or imprisoned.

Newsflash: This country, while far from perfect, is better than it has ever been. You're confusing subjective nostalgia for objective reality. Why any rational, thinking person pines for 'the old days' is beyond me.

Ps - doing things a certain way merely because that's how they were done yesterday is a logically nonsensical way of determining how things should be done.
amen!
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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Sorry, but no. A teacher does not get to lay hands on a student unless the student represents a physical threat. She was being obnoxious? Give her detention, a suspension, whatever. I wouldn't even have gotten mad - just send her away and focus on the kids who are actually participating. The problem here was that the teacher invested his ego into "winning" the confrontation rather than doing his job.

Yes, he should be fired. I don't care what other people's teachers did to them in years past. It's not acceptable NOW.

If she'd hit her head, this could have had a very ugly outcome. And let's not even get into how creepy the idea of a grown man dragging around a mostly naked teenaged girl is.
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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Im sorry but when i was in school there was no telling the teachers or the parents what you would/wouldnt do. They said do it and thats what you did. Just had her hair done? My teachers and parents wouldnt have given a rats butt. Get in or get thrown in was how it was for us. My dad wouldve helped the teacher throw me in.

Heck why even have teachers there to begin with if the kids are going to decide what they will and wont do?

Children do not make the rules.
To answer your question:

Because teaching is not a forceful thing. If you need force to teach someone something, that isn't teaching, it is something else.
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Of course it was the wrong thing to do. The snot should have been punished for not getting in the water and mouthing off to the teacher or coach.

That said, had I acted like she did when I was in school, I'd have also had my parents to answer to.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:47 PM
 
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This country has always been going to hell in a hand-basket.
Ayup. And exactly how big is this hand basket?
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Old 11-25-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: metropolis
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He should have just wrote her up and sent her to the office.
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Old 11-25-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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It is not ok for any teacher to lay their hands on a student with the exception of if that student is endangering someone or themselves or if that student is in danger of being harmed or is already harmed, and the teacher is removing them from a dangerous situation. Period. It's really very simple. To try to physically compel a student to do something that they are not willing to do is unacceptable. It isn't ok now, and it wasn't ok "back then". Teachers, and other figures of authority, got away with it because there wasn't video evidence back then like there is now.
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Old 11-25-2014, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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It's beyond "not a smart thing to be doing." It's flat out assault and battery. If it were my child he would have been arrested.
If that were my child I'd have been arrested.
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Old 11-25-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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What about the other students? Why did they just stand there? At that age, I would have protested, called 911, screamed in his face, anything to stop the bully. Anyone hits me, I hit back!
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