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Looks like NOT wearing a seatbelt saved that dude's life.
I believe that we all have an expiration date and if it's not your time to go, nothing will change that.
So, if a doctor tells you that you need surgery to save your life, it doesn't matter if you have the surgery or not?
If you lie down in the middle of a freeway in the dark of night, and it's not your "expiration date," you will not die when cars run over you?
Would you walk at night, all alone, in dangerous parts of town known for drive-by shootings and other murders, because "if it's not your time to go, NOTHING (even your own stupidity &/or recklessness) will change that?
I'm not trying to be rude; I'm just really trying to understand this kind of thinking.
So, if a doctor tells you that you need surgery to save your life, it doesn't matter if you have the surgery or not?
If you lie down in the middle of a freeway in the dark of night, and it's not your "expiration date," you will not die when cars run over you?
Would you walk at night, all alone, in dangerous parts of town known for drive-by shootings and other murders, because "if it's not your time to go, NOTHING (even your own stupidity &/or recklessness) will change that?
I'm not trying to be rude; I'm just really trying to understand this kind of thinking.
Not to speak for OP, but it seems to me she/he's just making a statement about life in general, nowhere did they recommend people make life decisions based on it. You seem to be assuming that because "if it's your time you can't stop it" to mean the opposite must also be true, that you can't die unless it's some pre-ordained time and so you can walk in front of trains...that's a huge leap and IMO OP said nothing like this. It's just a saying about how random life and death is and little we are actually in control of.
We can't know about or stop a random event that causes you to be standing under the scaffolding that drops from the side of a building onto your head...it was just your time, your bad luck, you being in the perfect place and time and having no idea....that doesn't in any way mean you can't kill yourself earlier than that by walking in front of a train. I think maybe yo;u re taking it too literally. It's quite a common saying.
Not to speak for OP, but it seems to me she/he's just making a statement about life in general, nowhere did they recommend people make life decisions based on it. You seem to be assuming that because "if it's your time you can't stop it" to mean the opposite must also be true, that you can't die unless it's some pre-ordained time and so you can walk in front of trains...that's a huge leap and IMO OP said nothing like this. It's just a saying about how random life and death is and little we are actually in control of.
We can't know about or stop a random event that causes you to be standing under the scaffolding that drops from the side of a building onto your head...it was just your time, your bad luck, you being in the perfect place and time and having no idea....that doesn't in any way mean you can't kill yourself earlier than that by walking in front of a train. I think maybe yo;u re taking it too literally. It's quite a common saying.
The person I quoted did not say "if it's your time you can't stop it." In fact she did say the opposite.
Many fundamentalists (which I once was) do believe that literally. The pastor of the church I attended for many years taught that as literal, though I never could fully accept it. That's why I asked her about her thinking on it.
The person I quoted did not say "if it's your time you can't stop it." In fact she did say the opposite.
Many fundamentalists (which I once was) do believe that literally. The pastor of the church I attended for many years taught that as literal, though I never could fully accept it. That's why I asked her about her thinking on it.
So, if a doctor tells you that you need surgery to save your life, it doesn't matter if you have the surgery or not?
If you lie down in the middle of a freeway in the dark of night, and it's not your "expiration date," you will not die when cars run over you?
Would you walk at night, all alone, in dangerous parts of town known for drive-by shootings and other murders, because "if it's not your time to go, NOTHING (even your own stupidity &/or recklessness) will change that?
I'm not trying to be rude; I'm just really trying to understand this kind of thinking.
Well, if a doctor can save your life with a particular surgery, then obviously, it isn't your time to go. If the doctor operates and fails, then it was your time to go. Not really that hard to figure out what he/she was getting at.
Well, if a doctor can save your life with a particular surgery, then obviously, it isn't your time to go. If the doctor operates and fails, then it was your time to go. Not really that hard to figure out what he/she was getting at.
So it all has to do with whether or not it was your "time to go"? The skill of the doctor had nothing to do with it? The poor choices that a person makes, contributing to poor health, has nothing to do with lifespan? There is some pre-ordained timetable that determines when each person will die, and no human actions have any bearing on that pre-determined date to die?
So it all has to do with whether or not it was your "time to go"? The skill of the doctor had nothing to do with it? The poor choices that a person makes, contributing to poor health, has nothing to do with lifespan? There is some pre-ordained timetable that determines when each person will die, and no human actions have any bearing on that pre-determined date to die?
Wow, you REALLY look into things WAY too far. It is nothing more than a figure of speech that zoomed about 5 miles over your head. I bet you are the type of person that when someone says "holy s..t", you wonder how it became holy. You contemplate whether a priest blessed it or possible blessed the animal that left said s..t.
Well, if a doctor can save your life with a particular surgery, then obviously, it isn't your time to go. If the doctor operates and fails, then it was your time to go. Not really that hard to figure out what he/she was getting at.
Yes, that is basically what I was saying. Thank you. Suicide, on the other hand is a whole 'nother thing.
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