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I have never heard of a florist staying at a wedding to rearrange the flowers at all. I have heard of them delivering and setting them up in some cases, in others they can be picked up at the shop and the wedding planner/ wedding party sets them up.
Heck, a wedding is what an hour at most, how much can the flowers need rearranging? Even at the reception, which can last hours, I have never heard of the florist hanging out to fix the flowers all evening.
Regardless of your personal experiences, the florist has stated that her services involving Wedding Flowers includes the creation of the flowers, delivery to the venue, remaining through the ceremony and assisting the wedding party as needed.
So according to her written statement she does not discrimate against same sex weddings if it is covered under State law.
She could of sold them the floral arrangements with the provision that she personally would not be there to rearrange the flowers during the wedding service (do they actually do that?).
Coulda woulda shoulda - those are not valid arguments against her protected religious freedoms. I did not see where her statement related to any event, just individuals of a protected class. She did not discriminate against the customer. She sold him flowers more than 20 times over nearly a decade.
Regardless of your personal experiences, the florist has stated that her services involving Wedding Flowers includes the creation of the flowers, delivery to the venue, remaining through the ceremony and assisting the wedding party as needed.
Where did she make those statements? If she did, they contradict what she told the court under oath.
Coulda woulda shoulda - those are not valid arguments against her protected religious freedoms. I did not see where her statement related to any event, just individuals of a protected class. She did not discriminate against the customer. She sold him flowers more than 20 times over nearly a decade.
The SC has ruled in other cases that religious freedom does not negate other laws. I think that is sensible, because anyone can believe anything, making every law unenforceable.
So in Washington state the state forces you to give your labor or service. You have no choice. How totalitarian. No liberty there.
The judge was wrong on the ruling her Federally protected religious rights are trumped by state.
Doctors have quit because of the state demanding they perform abortions. NICE going state and whiners, keep tearing the country apart. Soon you will all choke on your stifling laws. 3000 Americans have given up their US citizenship. People used to flock to the US now they are fleeing. Nice going "liberals."
Regardless of your personal experiences, the florist has stated that her services involving Wedding Flowers includes the creation of the flowers, delivery to the venue, remaining through the ceremony and assisting the wedding party as needed.
Please post a link to this claim, as I have never heard of a florist staying to "assist the wedding party".
Quote business law governing the operation of business that says that on your private property you have to give your labor for opening the door to the public...... you are referring to. Never seen that.
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Originally Posted by Byron1022
So in Washington state the state forces you to give your labor or service. You have no choice. How totalitarian. No liberty there.
Have you been living under a rock for the last 60 years?
It's not just Washington State. 45 states have a nearly identical law to Washington, and the 5 that don't I believe do have a law that doesn't let businesses refuse service to handicap people. And also, there has been a federal law (enacted in 1964) that does the same thing as the Washington State law (although it covers fewer types of businesses since the Feds can only regulate interstate commerce).
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