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Old 05-01-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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As you have ZERO proof that he wasn't. I know there are bad cops out there, I also know there are plenty of good ones out there. People in Gray's situation play that to the max. I worked in law enforcement for 12 years before a forced retirement due to injury from a car accident from being hit by a drunk driver.

Apparently they had no reason to contact him in the first place, that is on them and they will pay dearly for that. Again, many put the badge on and think they are invincible. But when you aren't guilty you don't handle the situation as Mr. Gray did either.
If you worked in LE then you would know that Gray's injuries were caused by high velocity impact. That my friend, is not opinion but fact. You could toss yourself all over a vehicle that is not lurching, screeching to a stop or making sharp corners and you could NOT do this harm to yourself because you could not generate the velocity. Try it if you don't believe me.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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If you worked in LE then you would know that Gray's injuries were caused by high velocity impact. That my friend, is not opinion but fact. You could toss yourself all over a vehicle that is not lurching, screeching to a stop or making sharp corners and you could NOT do this harm to yourself because you could not generate the velocity. Try it if you don't believe me.
Let's hope all those that are rioting and looting follow your suggestion... if nothing else, it'll give the people of Baltimore MORE reason to riot and loot.. oh wait, they'll all be dead from your experiment...
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Sounds like he got one of those "rough rides" that Baltimore PD are known for. They paralyzed someone by doing this and settled the lawsuit in 2007 or 2009 iirc.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:37 AM
 
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There are a lot of people on here defending the police. I want to hear from you. I want you to explain to me how this wasn't the fault of the police.

Even if the police didn't beat him or purposefully give him a "rough ride" it was still negligence on their behalf not to buckle him in. Buckling up an arrested person is part of the Baltimore Police Department's own rules, so at the very least they caused Freddie Gray's death through negligently breaking their own department rules.

Please explain to me how it could possibly not be the fault of the police.


Oh, and this isn't coming from some whiny socialist or whatever you want to make all of his defenders out to be. I grew up in the country hunting and fishing just like you, the difference is I just happen to have common sense and basic reasoning skills.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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I don't think anyone here questions some negligence on the part of the police. It's clear there were many questionable things that took place with that van ride. Negligence is a long way from outright premeditated murder however.

It's too bad however that the people who decided to burn down Baltimore didn't instead think to ask the same questions first.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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I don't think anyone here questions some negligence on the part of the police. It's clear there were many questionable things that took place with that van ride. Negligence is a long way from outright premeditated murder however.

It's too bad however that the people who decided to burn down Baltimore didn't instead think to ask the same questions first.
No one said 'premeditated' except you, did they?
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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No one said 'premeditated' except you, did they?
I don't know. Did you search the topic?
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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I don't think anyone here questions some negligence on the part of the police. It's clear there were many questionable things that took place with that van ride. Negligence is a long way from outright premeditated murder however.

It's too bad however that the people who decided to burn down Baltimore didn't instead think to ask the same questions first.
No one is charged with premeditated murder.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:25 AM
 
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No one is charged with premeditated murder.

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Old 05-01-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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FREDDIE GRAY: THE CHARGES


Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr

1. Second degree depraved heart murder. Maximum sentence: 30 years

2. Manslaughter (involuntary). Ten years.

3. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

4. Manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence). Ten years.

5. Manslaughter by vehicle (criminal negligence). Three years.

6. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.

Officer William G. Porter

1. Manslaughter (involuntary. Ten years.

2. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

3. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.

Lt Brian W. Rice

1. Manslaughter (involuntary). Ten years.

2. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

3. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

4. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.

5. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.

6. False imprisonment. At court's discretion.

Officer Edward M. Nero

1. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

2. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

3. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.

4. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.

5. False imprisonment. At court's discretion.

Officer Garret E. Miller

1. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

2. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

3. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.

4. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.

5. False imprisonment. At court's discretion.

Sgt Alicia D. White

1. Manslaughter (involuntary). Ten years.

2. Assault / second degree. Ten years.

3. Misconduct in office. At court's discretion.
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