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Old 05-18-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by ocnjgirl View Post
No one shrieked or wailed, if you were referring to the thread that asked in its title "is thug the new n word". Many including me answered the question, but I request proof of shrieking and wailing, because I think you're making it up for effect, which seems to be a tactic for those who lack logic to form cohesive arguments.
I would like to know simply for curiosity's sake, how you discern shrieking and wailing on a post that doesn't use caps or exclamation points...please explain.
As for this thread, I do believe most people are using it here only in reaction to that thread.
oh, there were many shrieks and wails of indignation on that thread and on at least two other similar ones dealing with the 'thug' term that were much like it, black posters primarily were outraged that they didn't hear white people referred to as thugs nearly as often as they thought was necessary.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Following are your own words from the aforementioned "youths" thread.

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Only if they're black. I don't even read posts that put thug in the title (this is different) as they are giving away their POV then and there, and there's no reason to even read what it says.
Clearly you DO read threads with the word thug in them. I submit that you are not a non-judgmental observer of what you consider to be people's encoded use of the word. Your behavior indicates someone who is following its use quite carefully and is emotionally invested in the subject. Shrieking? Maybe not but he was on the right track.
¡Ay, caramba!
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What is the world coming to with all these thugs going around killing people.

Shootout among rival biker gangs in Texas restaurant kills 9
They were rival gangs and shot each other.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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Originally Posted by MissTerri View Post
If people start rioting and looting then there might be reason for all of those things.
This group is absolutely the definition of thugs. Color, rioting, and looting matters not.

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When I was in the military we stood up a new M.C. chapter in a new place (Arizona). I really liked and respected my fellow members and our brotherhood. But from day one I knew this was not something people with respect for others do. As one of the founding members of the new chapter I was named an officer, Secretary to be exact. In order to stand up a new chapter you have to have permission to operate from one of the one percenter clubs. They set up a meeting called the CMC in AZ and they dictate everything from your rocker to location name to your colors its all very political and very silly. Since we were a non-1%er group they did not care about much but our colors and our location.

I learned a lot about biker gangs. I never in a million years thought I would be sitting in a bar with 1%ers from two major organizations. It was pretty nerve racking.

They say that the biker world is all about respect, but that is not what it's about. It's dumb drunks and druggies with weapons and power on an ego trip. I was never disrespected or mad dogged or anything by any of the 1%ers. Most were pretty chill but if you got a gang of newbies or rivals in a conflict with the established old timers, oh man... there will be blood.

From news reports it sounded to me like this was a local confederation of M.C.s meeting gone wrong judging by the list of M.C.s in attendance. This was something that I always worried about when going to one of these meetings. Luckily, all the times I had been to these meetings nothing was going on.

The Cossacks and their groupies the Scimitars have been in a turf war (Texas) with the Bandidos. And just so you know the group I was affiliated with had strong ties to the Bandidos because it was based in TX. Bandidos are huge in Texas. Certian clubs own certain states and when anyone says Texas their first thought is Bandidos in the M.C. world. In AZ we delt mainly with the more "pedestrian" Hells Angels and Huns.

Biker gangs aren't really all that violent, not in public at least, one time we were at a gas station with our colors off our own turf in NM and some Mongols and Huns rolled up, but nothing happened at all. 99% of the time nothing happens, my guess is the Scimitars and Cossacks took it upon themselves to assert themselves to the Bandidos tempers flared and things got out of hand.

I do not miss the M.C. world. After 3 years a secretary in an M.C. I politely turned in my patches. The misogyny, the lack of direction, too much drinking, and a high school like atmosphere with guns and bikes was silly to me after 3 years.

I'm just glad no one innocent got caught up in the adult high school hijinx/pissing contests found in the biker world.
Pretty much.

None of them have any worthwhile skills and stripped of their motorcycles, they'd be without any self-esteem. That's a primary reason why they resort to selling drugs and whatnot.

After being around 1%ers, I'd have more respect for the gum on the bottom of my shoe.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Canada
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They were rival gangs and shot each other.
This goes way beyond just gangland activities...Biker Gangs have been around since I was a kid..experienced some of their carnage as a HC providers thru to retirement. They have been a thorn in the side of LE/FBI for decades++++.

Biker Gangs are run no different that what we like to remember the "Mobster Scene" except they don't wear shirt and ties..and influence high ranking folks.
Back then..Mob's got involved with Government/Law Enforcement officials with bribes and manipulation...These gangs never rose any higher levels of influence..Just maintained their own turf and pipelines..no more no less..

Let's just hope they will stay on that trajectory..(Flat timeline of development)..
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Austin
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oh, there were many shrieks and wails of indignation on that thread and on at least two other similar ones dealing with the 'thug' term that were much like it, black posters primarily were outraged that they didn't hear white people referred to as thugs nearly as often as they thought was necessary.
The irony here that our liberal speech patrol squad doesn't get is that not only are the bikers being called thugs but that's the term that many of them would use to refer to the police. A totally race neutral bilateral use of the word. No black people involved, speech patrol.

Ever hear the term "Jack Booted Thugs"? It's based on the imagery of Hitler's pre-Nazi Brown Shirt goon squad. It was re-coined in modern times to refer to militarized arms of federal law enforcement like the FBI, DEA, ATF and is commonly used by patriot groups, white supremacists, even the NRA to describe what they perceive to be the governments trampling of their rights. Super freakin whitest-of-the-white people using it to label law enforcement.

You fools don't own this word. You can't have it. Get your Orwellian socially censoring mitts off of the English language.
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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Let's see if the government tries to shut down "Rolling Thunder" this weekend.
LOL - yes, let the rumor mill spin into overdrive on that.
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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How were they allowed to hold a gang recruitment meeting at a bar uninhibited by law enforcement? In certain cities there are gang injunctions against various gangs, which give law enforcement the power to arrest members just merely hanging together.
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:39 PM
 
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They were rival gangs and shot each other.
Perhaps. Some are claiming otherwise:

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The shove in the bathroom became a scuffle in the restaurant. When about 30 Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars and other bikers spilled into the parking between the Twin peaks and the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant next door, the police were waiting for them. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. Multiple sources have told The Aging Rebel that all of the dead were killed by police.
The Waco Police Massacre | The Aging Rebel

Considering the large number of cops on the scene before the fight spilled out from the restaurant and turned lethal, I'm sure there'll be plenty of surveillance footage available to establish who shot who.
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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I'd hardly call a Hooters knock-off a family restaurant.
I already said earlier I did not know that.
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