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Just wanted to make it known I was responding to what Rakin said about no place to store water. I guess I should have separated the quote instead of just different fonts.
Wrong, as far as no place to hold and store water during heavy rains.
An Oklahoma lake--what it should look like with no drought, or, after a heavy spring storm (this could be a picture of any lake in OK or TX)..
The same lake in late summer or fall (once again, it could be a picture of any lake in TX or OK)..
The OP talked about Texas and Oklahoma, both of which have been going through a drought for a number of years, and, even with the current totally out of character heavy storms the two states are now going through, the drought is expected to continue. Right now this lake looks like the top picture, by late summer or fall it will once again look like the bottom picture. Spring is when the two states normally see enough rain to replenish their lakes, rivers, streams, etc., the rest of the year it's usually as dry as a pop corn fart.
And you expect some one (who exactly?) to fork out billions of dollars to run a pipe, and to push any water, from TX/OK to CA for a possible once a year, twice a year if they are extremely lucky, dribble of excess water?
It appears that CA has finally woken up and are working on creating desalination plants, so far they have 17 in the planning/building stages. They even have one that they had finished building in 1992, to serve Santa Barbara, that they had never, ever even used--it's just been sitting there-collecting dust.
Okay then, OK and Tex could be recipients of some other state's flood water and maybe the ground would not be so dam hard.
Somehow, piping Texas water to other parts of the country that don't know how to manage their water reminds me of that bumper sticker.......
Reminds me out in West Texas (San Angelo) who's lake was going dry so they built a pipeline to another lake. By the time they got the pipeline built, that lake was dry also.
The issue is people and industry that located in desert climates who completely ignore their environment, try to use water like it was a rain forest, then are shocked when environment reminds them of their stupidity.
It's silly to pump water 1000s of miles so people can have an English garden and play golf in the desert.
Yes, this! ABOVE! ^^^^
Though did see an article over the weekend about folks in Cali tearing out their lawns and installing "fake grass"… so that's a start.
I remember back in 2002 Denver had one of it's biggest drought seasons. Denver Water told people to conserve. People listened. The problem was they listened too well and Denver Water wasn't making enough profit so they jacked up the rates to compensate.
Same year, many of the lawns were turning yellow due to heavy water restrictions. Local HOA's sent out letters to water their lawns or find another method to keep it green. Damned if you do, damned if you don't
Of course this year we can't go a day without heavy downpour. I'm ready for a drought
Water is the most basic and most necessary element to facilitate development and industry. A national water grid could be an asset that would pay dividends going forward and increase prosperity.
It could also be accomplished with a fraction of what we spend in foreign wars making enemies worldwide.
Nobody likes war, but the half baked liberal notion that war/conflict can be avoided with evil people is just absurd.
Should the federal government (meaning all taxpayers nationwide) be responsible for paying for CA residents irresponsible actions?
Keep in mind that aside from the liberal Hollywood hypocrites, CA loses tons of water due to absurd things in the name of their wacko causes.
The amount of wasted water on non essential crops like almonds is incredible. That combined with new water parks that use 300,000 gallons of water.
Yet hundreds of billions of gallons of water is wasted and goes into the ocean because of poor planning.
Read the article;
So before we decide to bail CA out by throwing other taxpayers money at the problem so the hypocrites can continue their folly, we should tell them to get their own house in order.
I am not sure where you live or where you get your figures from, but I can tell you my water bill runs north of $250 @ month in the summer months and over half of that in the winter. We have no grass and only water our trees. We have been in conservation mode for over a decade and the situation gets continually worse...
The figures I listed are for Irvine, California -- right next to UC Irvine in the so-called "faculty ghetto."
I don't doubt that your bill is north of $250; as I posted, many other areas in SoCal pay 3 to 4 times more than UC Irvine faculty.
Your water bill should list the price of water -- perhaps listed in dollars per acre-foot, or in dollars per hundred cubic feet, or in dollars per gallons. Could you take a look & post it please?
Yes, it is our civic responsibility to conserve. Unfortunately, civic responsibility appears to influence behaviour only to a certain extent -- beyond that, people might respond more to a substantial price increase.
The figures I listed are for Irvine, California -- right next to UC Irvine in the so-called "faculty ghetto."
I don't doubt that your bill is north of $250; as I posted, many other areas in SoCal pay 3 to 4 times more than UC Irvine faculty.
Your water bill should list the price of water -- perhaps listed in dollars per acre-foot, or in dollars per hundred cubic feet, or in dollars per gallons. Could you take a look & post it please?
Yes, it is our civic responsibility to conserve. Unfortunately, civic responsibility appears to influence behaviour only to a certain extent -- beyond that, people might respond more to a substantial price increase.
You think I don't know what my own damn water bill is ? You obviously do not have a clue what you are talking about. With 80% plus of California's water going to agriculture (which is exported outside the State), the conservation of a small percentage of the remaining less than 20% does not amount to a hill of beans, and it certainly is not going to help this. Record rainfall floods parts of U.S., killing four - MarketWatch
Water is not a renewable resource. Take water from one area and transport it far away and you will remove the water from that first area. It will not return so over time, the infrastructure built would be useless. There would be no more water to move.
Do you have a source for this?
It seems to me the water comes from atmospheric sources, which in turn mostly comes from vegetative transpiration and ocean/lake evaporation. Atmospheric sources are pretty dynamic and unpredictable.
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of water is wasted and goes into the ocean because of poor planning.
