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Old 07-30-2015, 08:13 PM
 
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Bad things happen when you have a murderer in the house. Besides, officers claim it was an accident caused by the grandmother grabbing the officer's gun.

I don't know what the truth is as I wasn't there but you are really claiming the cop busted in, saw Aiyana and said yea... a little girl... I'm gonna kill her now!?

Really?!

I'll tell you what probably happened... a cop hyped up on adrenaline during a high stress situation involving a dangerous murder suspect was too quick on the trigger and shot before identifying his target.

I wonder how you would fare in the cops shoes? Anyway the cop paid dearly for his mistake and will never wear a badge again... and rightfully so. Anybody who is anything less than a superman shouldn't be a cop... kinda leaves the country shorthanded though.
Oh, okay. Let's debunk your government-goon apologia one sentence at a time, shall we?

"Bad things happen when you have a murderer in the house."

So, because someone in your family is guilty, then everyone can be punished? There was a country that did this once. It was the USSR. I thought this was America.

"Are you really claiming that the cop saw Aiyana and said yeah, a little girl, I'm going to kill her now?"

Yes.

"Really?"

Yes.

"I'll tell you what probably happened... a cop hyped up on adrenaline during a high stress situation involving a dangerous murder suspect was too quick on the trigger and shot before identifying his target."

Aren't they super-ultra-specially-trained badasses in all their SWAT gear? Are you actually suggesting that police training is so pitiful and ill-suited to equip police for real-life situations that they don't learn to distinguish between a 7 year old girl and a 34 year old man?

"I wonder how you would fare in the cops shoes?"

I would have made the correct moral decision and prepared for a raid on a house KNOWING there were children inside, which they did:

Lessons from the Death of Aiyana Stanley-Jones - Reason.com

"Anyway the cop paid dearly for his mistake and will never wear a badge again... and rightfully so."

Yes, a 7 year old is dead and the guy who got fired is the one who "paid dearly"... Why don't you jam the government's **** further down your throat, you servile lover of unearned authority?

"Anybody who is anything less than a superman shouldn't be a cop... kinda leaves the country shorthanded though."

No. Anyone who can't tell the difference between a 7 year old girl and a 34 year old man should not be a cop.

Go ahead, forum police, ban me.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:16 PM
 
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^ Your agenda is showing, smart one.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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^ Your agenda is showing, smart one.
So is your lack of critical thinking ability.

"Oh, jackbooted government thugs, kill us at your will! Fox News and MSNBC and Newsmax and CNN and CBS swear you're keeping us safe and free, so you must be! The government would never lie to us!" - JerseyGirl415
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:20 PM
 
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So is your lack of critical thinking ability.

"Oh, jackbooted government thugs, kill us at your will! Fox News and MSNBC and Newsmax and CNN and CBS swear you're keeping us safe and free, so you must be! The government would never lie to us!" - JerseyGirl415
Uh huh.
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Old 07-31-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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"Are you really claiming that the cop saw Aiyana and said yeah, a little girl, I'm going to kill her now?"

Yes.

"Really?"

Yes.
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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How are you getting that? It says 37.7%.
Spilt the unknown evenly among the other categories.
It actually is about 51% of homicides are committed by 13% of the population.
Even if we used your numbers, it is quite disproportionate, don't you think?

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Old 07-31-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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You and I have no idea what it is like to deal daily with the dregs of society: the drunk, the armed, the violent, the cop killer.

The police have my respect and support, not criminals. And believe me, I have and always will do what they say when they say it and respectful at all times to an officer of the law.
balls.

without wishing to disclose too much, I have enough background to call balls .

most cops are good people, perhaps distorted by the work a little. But the unstable ones and the bad ones, do exist, they are usually known in their stations. And nobody does a damn thing to keep them off the streets and out of harms way.
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Old 07-31-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Police departments are like any organization going to have some who have a criminal mind ones that can't resist the temptation to use their power over others. The use of body cameras, and car camera's are going to change things. I just had a discussion with a co-worker who used to be a police officer left the force 15 years ago. He was telling me how he never witnessed another officer use excessive force, but he did see one time where a drunk tried to walk away from an officer bumping shoulders and they charged him with assault on a police officer that is a serious charge in my state. That was something he said he did see when anyone ever resisted they got charged with that. A person who has money and can hire a good attorney probably can get out of that charge but someone who is poor would end up not so lucky.
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Spilt the unknown evenly among the other categories.
It actually is about 51% of homicides are committed by 13% of the population.
Even if we used your numbers, it is quite disproportionate, don't you think?

I hope that everyone is also smart enough to realize that " A Minority Within A Minority " of African American are committing all of these Murders in the USA the MAJORITY of African American don't have anything to do with it YET some of you BRAND All African American With This Stigma Don't You?????????????????????
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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I hope that everyone is also smart enough to realize that " A Minority Within A Minority " of African American are committing all of these Murders in the USA the MAJORITY of African American don't have anything to do with it YET some of you BRAND All African American With This Stigma Don't You?????????????????????
Of course but regardless, a very small number of the population is responsible for over half the violent crimes. It's a shocking stat, whether it's the whole 13% or 1% of the 13%. It's bad either way.
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