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If you can't see how incredibly condescending it is to call someone's faith a fairytale then it is hopeless.
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Originally Posted by JerseyGirl415
Calling a religion a "fairytale" is certainly being condescending and unnecessarily rude. Again, if you don't see it...
You're quite right.
Fairy-tales have happy endings.
The Yahweh-thing coming back with the Divine Pyromaniac Junior to destroy Earth is not a happy ending.
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Originally Posted by JerseyGirl415
Actual major religions have histories and written scripture dating thousands of years.
Which qualifies them as mythology at most.
I'll settle for Horror Story instead of Fairy-Tale, given the Great Destruction planned for us.
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Originally Posted by JerseyGirl415
I think that is so condescending. Until someone can prove to me that God isn't real, our beliefs (atheist vs religious) really aren't that much different or superior to one another.
1 Kings 11:5 Solomon worshiped the Sidonian goddess Astarte and the detestable Ammonite god Milcom.
2 Kings 17:30 The people from Babylon made Succoth Benoth, the people from Cuth made Nergal, the people from Hamath made Ashima,...
According to the Bible, there are other gods. In fact, more than two dozen gods are named.
Do you believe in them, too?
Why not?
The Bible says they exist and are real, and the Bible is the word of god and the word of god is infallible, right?
Why does the Christian god coldly ignore the desperate pleas of amputees to be healed?
That's a valid question you could ask 7th Graders.
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Originally Posted by Unsettomati
And if you need to call it condescending to point out this reality, that's your issue. But the reality remains that the teacher was right. If people can't handle that, too bad. It's not the business of teachers to decline to teach critical thinking skills because Johnny's Dad or Susie's Mom is terrified that their little snowflake might not turn out as bereft of the ability to critically analyze the world as Daddy or Mommy might wish.
What is the difference
1. God is real
2. There is a God
The teacher said "God is a myth." She has this same discussion every Monday......why would this be? She should have let the answers be what each kid thinks, why was it of her interest to pit kids against each other. Religion can be taught without asking for a fact about God, that even a non-believer can not provide if God is fact or not.
My guess many didn't, since they all keep saying the same thing. Helps to read the article rather than tell us over and over the teacher didn't say this.
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Originally Posted by maciesmom
Here, I'll make it easy for you. No need to dig through the brouhaha of manufactured outrage:
Well this is one hell of a cover up this is not what is being reported. Someone needed their azz covered.
Oops, you forgot to add this part of the school district's response:
The problem remains, it was a poorly thought out lesson and using that example has no place in a public 7th grade English class.
It's still not a big deal, not like people are making out. I think you're being ridiculous, frankly. Again, much ado about nothing at all, JMO.
Whether the teacher argued or welcomed all students' views is an Opinion. More importantly, the answer to question 2 is more proof there was conversation or discussion, contrary to your False Repetitive Assertion [FRA] that there wasn't.
Could it not be simply a mistake on my part? Fancy word, though!
The teacher said "God is a myth." She has this same discussion every Monday......why would this be? She should have let the answers be what each kid thinks, why was it of her interest to pit kids against each other. Religion can be taught without asking for a fact about God, that even a non-believer can not provide if God is fact or not.
She didn't say God is a myth, there are myriad sources that back that up. It sounds like you need the lesson she was teaching more than the kids, a "common assertion" is not the same as a myth. Common assertions are statements believed to be true by a majority of people, a myth is not necessarily believed by anyone, certainly not on a mass scale.
I am taking names, lol, because I am sure next time there's a thread about a Jehovah's Witness or a Hindu complaining about something they are making her do in school, you'll all be out in force screaming "This is Obama and the PC police at work!!". Mess with anyone but us, that's the rule, right?
It's still not a big deal, not like people are making out. I think you're being ridiculous, frankly. Again, much ado about nothing at all, JMO.
This statement is odd for the debate at hand......yes you are being ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by ocnjgirl
She didn't say God is a myth, there are myriad sources that back that up. It sounds like you need the lesson she was teaching more than the kids, a "common assertion" is not the same as a myth. Common assertions are statements believed to be true by a majority of people, a myth is not necessarily believed by anyone, certainly not on a mass scale.
I am taking names, lol, because I am sure next time there's a thread about a Jehovah's Witness or a Hindu complaining about something they are making her do in school, you'll all be out in force screaming "This is Obama and the PC police at work!!". Mess with anyone but us, that's the rule, right?
You are really showing your fear of people who question others, not sure why you cling to Obama, like those who cling to the Bible, I guess.
The second item on the paper was the statement "There is a God." "I told her it was a fact, indeed true, based on my religion, and she said that I was incorrect. I was wrong," Jordan told FOX 26.
You can spilt hairs, the question is wrong to begin with. Anyone with faith is going to say it is a fact, anyone with out faith would have an opinion or common assertion. Not sure how this question would even merit a true answer, let alone a grade. For the teacher to know this is an argument every week seems she would have addressed the school asking them to remove it. The teacher claims to be Christian yet jumped at the chance to correct the Christian girl.
I would love for the teacher to address Muslims in the same way.......seems Allah should have been there also, yet too many of you are more afraid of Allah than God. I bet you will be right there saying it is incorrect to corner a Muslim child in this way.
The teacher said "God is a myth." She has this same discussion every Monday......why would this be? She should have let the answers be what each kid thinks, why was it of her interest to pit kids against each other. Religion can be taught without asking for a fact about God, that even a non-believer can not provide if God is fact or not.
NO she did not say God is a myth.
She did not have this discussion
She did not have this discussion every Monday
The answer to question about that STATEMENT was common assertion the question was not about God
It was not graded and the kids were not prevented from thinking what they believe about God
She did not pit kids against one another
She was not teaching religion
This statement is odd for the debate at hand......yes you are being ridiculous.
You are really showing your fear of people who question others, not sure why you cling to Obama, like those who cling to the Bible, I guess.
The second item on the paper was the statement "There is a God." "I told her it was a fact, indeed true, based on my religion, and she said that I was incorrect. I was wrong," Jordan told FOX 26.
You can spilt hairs, the question is wrong to begin with. Anyone with faith is going to say it is a fact, anyone with out faith would have an opinion or common assertion. Not sure how this question would even merit a true answer, let alone a grade. For the teacher to know this is an argument every week seems she would have addressed the school asking them to remove it. The teacher claims to be Christian yet jumped at the chance to correct the Christian girl.
I would love for the teacher to address Muslims in the same way.......seems Allah should have been there also, yet too many of you are more afraid of Allah than God. I bet you will be right there saying it is incorrect to corner a Muslim child in this way.
Looking for updates, I ran across a phone interview the mother had with the Christian Broadcasting Network. Though I wouldn't link to CBN's personal opinions on what happened, I do trust it was really the mother on the phone.
These kids are not 5 yr olds. Just like Santa many adults don't believe in God. This topic does not belong in public schools.
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Helps to read the article rather than tell us over and over the teacher didn't say this. 
