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When I started college, all students were required to take a swimming test. If you couldn't swim, your next term of PE was a required survival swimming course.
California requires students to pass a swim test in order to graduate from highschool. I don't think there's a similar requirement for out-of-state college students, but maybe.
When I started college, all students were required to take a swimming test. If you couldn't swim, your next term of PE was a required survival swimming course.
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Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth
California requires students to pass a swim test in order to graduate from highschool. I don't think there's a similar requirement for out-of-state college students, but maybe.
Back in the dinasour age when I went to high school in Chicago we were required to learn to swim as one of the criteria for graduation. But even the best swimmers can panic. My guess is that's what happened here. The information being given about these students is just not enough to be able draw any definite conclusions about why they all drowned.
In any case it's a tragedy that these young lives were lost.
Actually the one that originally fell in survived. It was the five people who jumped in to save her who all drowned.
That is just weird.
I didn't even catch that..
I double down on this.
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I'm usually skeptical and this is another time. I don't understand how one person goes in who can't swim, so 4 other people go in to help, who also can't swim.
give it a few days, pratyusha will be investigated..
Learning to swim, unfortunately, is not considered a priority in Indian culture. This is one of the subtle results of overpopulation. The effects of overpopulation go far beyond competition for food, water and shelter. In a less densely populated country like the U.S or Canada, the school system has a much better chance of providing a well-rounded education for students. In India, it's all about academics, resulting in graduates who have lopsided life experience. Universities are merely factories for churning out graduates in their chosen field, but these graduates all lack life skills. Ever wonder why all Indian students fresh from India look so awkward and weird in the West? They have no confidence at all and just look out of place. Overpopulation. If they are young enough, university education in a Western country can partially or fully reverse the effects. But most older adults can never adapt.
It's really simple:
An American school can make something out of a moron.
An Indian school will ruin a genius's life.
Jesus dude...100k people drown in that country annually.
So basically, from the other side of the world based upon your cultural upbringing you think the whole thing is *shady*.
You guys seriously have zero clue but hey....if it makes you feel superior to have some sort of insight that everyone else has missed from thousands of miles away....go for it.
Standard conspiracy theory junkies, boosting their own ego via insights nobody else has. Sigh.
I'm usually skeptical and this is another time. I don't understand how one person goes in who can't swim, so 4 other people go in to help, who also can't swim.
give it a few days, pratyusha will be investigated..
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Because they were trying to save her. What's hard to understand about this story?
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No, but four people suddenly forget they can't swim. If it was that easy to just do, wouldn't the first girl have figured it out? Instead four people ..... forget?? That they can't swim..
At some point, theres no possible positive outcome for running into a burning building.
Do you just believe everything you are told?
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They also likely panicked. Stories like this are not entirely uncommon and it's happened here in the US as well.
Also people may think they can just go a little ways to help someone but then can't make it the short distance back.
Also, as I noted in a post that got orphaned, many people of their almost certainly higher status in India do not know how to swim due to cultural influences and views. They lose over 100k people a year to drowning.
It doesn't help to make a post about a post that is gone. Why do you assume they panicked? I don't believe that FIVE people couldn't just "suddenly not make it back"
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Just based upon the article it seems likely there are translational issues and like we often see in the press they get basic facts wrong all the time. I see this all the time in our own press whenever the topic gets into something I have a lot of knowledge about.
Obviously we didn't get nearly enough facts to draw any conclusion whatsoever and I trust that the local authorities there are not stupid enough to just accept the deaths of four people if they clearly shouldn't have.
Did you read this article too? The one that says all of them could swim??
Is it you just don't trust the media in general or because it doesn't go along with what you are saying?
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Yes possibly, "The Hindu" website says they could swim. Other Indian sites don't mention whether they could or not.
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Jesus dude...100k people drown in that country annually.
So basically, from the other side of the world based upon your cultural upbringing you think the whole thing is *shady*.
You guys seriously have zero clue but hey....if it makes you feel superior to have some sort of insight that everyone else has missed from thousands of miles away....go for it.
Standard conspiracy theory junkies, boosting their own ego via insights nobody else has. Sigh.
Neither do you. So why do you keep feeling the need to say everyone else is wrong? We are having a discussion about this in here, and you just keep trying to insult those that don't go along with your own assumptions. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. You are not required to believe it or respond to it. If you are going to though you should try to be; on topic, productive, and make a point that isn't just petty insults. You should also try to include the other information in the thread even if it contradicts you.
Why do you ignorantly assume my idea is based on culture and not on the peculiarity of the situation, or that I feel good in any way about it? What does cultural upbringing have anything to do with it??
(P.S. I have traveled the world, including India. I have spent 5 years living outside of this continent in 3 different countries and been to another 50. I'm certainly more culturally aware then you are trying to give me credit for. How about you? )
Did you read this article too? The one that says all of them could swim??
The one that says... why are you so fixated on this one line from one article? Does it really even matter if they could swim? It doesn't change the fact that they all drowned.
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