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Old 08-25-2018, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Well said. If you accuse someone of murder, you don't get the same sentence as a murderer.
But if you falsely accuse a man of rape, it could be said that you have raped his character and chances at a successful life.

 
Old 08-25-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Some years back, a 14 year-old girl accused a local teacher of touching her inappropriately. An investigation discovered that this girl and her mother had made identical claims in two different states and had collected about $250,000. in settlements, in each case. They had moved to Oregon only a short time before and didn't waste any time before making these charges.

Other students said they never saw anything that the teacher did and he had been regarded as very trustworthy. The local prosecutor wouldn't touch the case, as it was full of holes. But the school district weaseled-out and gave them another big payoff and threw the teacher under the bus. For practical purposes, his career as a teacher was over, as he was given administrative duties, with no student contact and quit before long.

The woman and her daughter were known to have soon left the state, probably to line up their next target. Imagine the effect that these kinds of serial attacks on innocent victims would have had on the character and life of that girl. She was as much of a victim of her mother, as the unfortunate teachers.
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Link?
This was a local story about 30 years ago. The archives of the newspaper here are behind a pay-wall and are not linkable. I learned some of the details directly from colleagues of this teacher. I was slightly acquainted with him, myself. Not everything can be found on the Internet. Take it or leave it. If I can track it down on the photo-copied Google Newspaper Archives, I'll try to take a screenshot.
 
Old 08-25-2018, 08:55 PM
 
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Yep it is behind a paywall at newspapers.com.
 
Old 08-25-2018, 09:37 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Originally Posted by Scotty011 View Post
Woman gets one year in jail for false rape accusation.



She should get the same sentence the man would have received if he had been convicted.
I agree.
 
Old 08-25-2018, 09:44 PM
 
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Only 1 year....
 
Old 08-25-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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Women who do this are punished. What more do you want? Do you want legitimate claimants not to come forward because you presume they might be false accusations?

I think we could avoid this stuff if men changed their dominant male culture and blew the whistle on perps. Women have been complaining about this far too long. It is time you helped us instead of being put upon. Women are not your enemy although men often act like it.

Recent sex assault trials point out complicity. People not speaking out against perps in male circles. It just perpetuates the behaviors we are being made aware of on a large scale.

Men, don't tolerate this like before. Now is the time to initiate change. Women are bravely revealing this stuff to you and the ball is also in your court. What are you going to do with it?.
But if things are as you say and things are set up against women then would it not make sense that women in cases such as this would be given very long prison sentences?
 
Old 08-26-2018, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I don't understand how young men can even date any more without a video of their entire date. Otherwise, there's a real risk of being charged with some kind of sexual assault.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 04:25 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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The Judge in the case would have weighed up mitigating circumstances and aggravating circumstances, and would have consulted sentencing guidelines and judicial precedence when passing sentence.

The fact that she admitted to the crime and making up the allegations would have led to a far more lenient sentence to start with, and what could have been five or six years became two on plea barganing.

However one of the reasons that may have led to a lighter sentence was psychiatric evaluation and Nikki Yovino claimed in her defence that she was suffering from mental illness at the time. If on examination psychiatrists found mental health issues or if there was any other evidence to back up her claims then it would be a mitigating circumstance which would be taken in to consideration when sentencing.

The fact the sentence was dropped from two years plea bargained, to just one year, suggests there must have been some new mitigating circumstances in relation to her mental healthm and this led to an even lighter sentence.

This is how sentencing and the Courts work.

Co-ed accused of false rape claims blames it on mental illness

The fact her life is now in tatters serves her right, and the accused may yet take private prosecutions in relation to compensation.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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It's not just a perception that women get lighter sentences than men for the same crimes:

https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinf...sparities.aspx

Whatever it takes to end this breach of justice need to happen now. Perhaps there needs to be a Supreme Court case that makes it explicitly clear than men don't get years of hard time and then women get sent off to therapy and Camp Cupcake for the same crime and judges don't get to keep doing what they've been doing. Or lighten the sentencing for men and toughen it for women to make it consistent for both genders. But something needs to happen because we can't keep incarcerating our men and having them die younger. It's unacceptable, it's unethical, and it's inexcusable.
When my state instituted mandatory minimum prison terms for a list of crimes, we had to build two new women's prisons to lock them all up.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 08:15 AM
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But if you falsely accuse a man of rape, it could be said that you have raped his character and chances at a successful life.
And when a man rapes a woman, he's raped her character and chances at a successful life, as well as subjected her to a violent physical assault, possible pregnancy, STD's/HIV, and long-term mental health issues. So why would anyone argue that the two crimes should receive the same sentence? Some of the posters in this thread seem very unaware that the effects of a rape are many and frequently life-long. The comments that the woman can "just get on with her life" are mind-boggling.


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Originally Posted by usayit View Post
Part of the problem is that newspapers and media don't seem to mind printing on the front page the accused names with the stupid disclaimer ("presumed innocent...) Then when their name is cleared it is buried.

That is part of the problem, but a bigger part is the role social media now plays. People are tried and convicted of all kinds of crimes on FB, Twitter, IG, et al without any regard to the facts. At least local papers and the courts make an attempt to report and sort out the facts.
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