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Old 03-23-2021, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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<>Additionally walking your dog on an empty beach is different than walking your dog off leash in an area where you know there is defenseless wildlife sunbathing is slightly different.
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Defenseless?? Did you ever see the mouth on a seal?? Not a defenseless beast at all.
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Old 03-23-2021, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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So, now BOTH Freddy Mercurys are dead?


...and the banned played on....
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Old 03-23-2021, 04:46 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Defenseless?? Did you ever see the mouth on a seal?? Not a defenseless beast at all.
When the k9 fled the scene with its owner and the seal had to be euthanized due to its injuries its very hard to take the stance of the seal being the ferocious beast in this scenario
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Old 03-23-2021, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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In the United States, the seal would have been taken to an animal hospital, given surgery, and placed with a wildlife rescue to recuperate. He'd be back on the beach in a few months.
He did get vetted. He had an orthopedic injury that was deemed not repairable.
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Old 03-23-2021, 05:16 PM
 
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Sad. People are supposed to keep their dogs under control..



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...onward-journey
Miami is full of these morons, purposely let their dogs loose, or zero care they get loose. Same people over and over again.


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The owners of the dog need to pay all medical bills that incurred and the dog should be put down
Why put the dog down? It was not the dog's fault, it was the owners' fault. The dog is doing what dogs do naturally. That is like getting mad at the cat because it killed a mouse.
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Old 03-23-2021, 05:32 PM
 
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I in no way am excusing that dog.

But isn’t this exactly why they tell us not to feed the bears and raccoons and other wildlife?

The seal was so used to interacting with humans that he was, in effect, defenseless. His natural instincts to avoid humans and dogs were dulled by years of people posing with him, taking pictures of and with him.

Very sad.
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Old 03-23-2021, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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A seal dies and it's international news!!
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Old 03-23-2021, 05:53 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Being in an area that allows off leash animals and keeping your animal under control is fine. This was right by the river where there are regularly seals on the beach and it is being investigated by law enforcement. There is almost certainly a leash law in that area. Additionally walking your dog on an empty beach is different than walking your dog off leash in an area where you know there is defenseless wildlife sunbathing is slightly different.

I know you dont agree with excessive government oversight but this woman clearly did not have control of her animals and her animal was a danger to the wildlife. It should have been leashed for everyones protection
i do believe that people are responsible for what their pets do. my previous dog (that we took on the beach) was not friendly to other dogs and would run after people if they ran (not attack them). so we were extremely careful about taking her off leash. we didnt expect to encounter any wildlife but if we did it probably wouldnt have been pretty. my current dog isnt safe to have off leash for people or dogs. so she never is. but there were a couple of times it happened by accident and fortunately nothing bad happened, just scared the crap out of a couple of people.

this is an interesting scenario talking about wildlife. its neither a person or a person's property. im not sure exactly how harming it would legitimately cross the law. i love wildlift but the fact is that people kill wildlife all day every day (and the amount of animals cats kill per year is absolutely mind blowing).
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Old 03-23-2021, 08:12 PM
 
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I in no way am excusing that dog.

But isn’t this exactly why they tell us not to feed the bears and raccoons and other wildlife?

The seal was so used to interacting with humans that he was, in effect, defenseless. His natural instincts to avoid humans and dogs were dulled by years of people posing with him, taking pictures of and with him.

Very sad.
Ever been around seals? They are often not scared of people at all. It is not uncommon to be able to walk right up to them.
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Old 03-23-2021, 08:29 PM
 
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Why put the dog down? It was not the dog's fault, it was the owners' fault. The dog is doing what dogs do naturally. That is like getting mad at the cat because it killed a mouse.
Bad analogy. Mice aren't very well liked or respected in our society, so if a cat kills one or a dozen mice, most people wouldn't care at all. In fact, most people would be thankful.

OTOH, a dog that's a killer of other animals is rather frowned upon in our society. There's also reason to suspect that a dog that would attack an animal that isn't bothering them might also attack a human. That definitely IS frowned upon. So, IMO, euthanizing the dog and fining the owner seems a reasonable response to what happened. Why wait til the dog kills a kid to decide that it's a dangerous dog?
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