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Old 08-31-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Critical M-ass has taken cycling in S Cal backwards. It may have started with good intent but the drunk hipster crowd has turned it into a hated event.
We do one Critical Mass-ish ride in in Dallas. It is a closed loop around our inner city lake with a police escort as part of the Ride of Silence. In fact it was the original RoS. There is no talking and it can't exceed 12mph.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:02 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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We do one Critical Mass-ish ride in in Dallas. It is a closed loop around our inner city lake with a police escort as part of the Ride of Silence. In fact it was the original RoS. There is no talking and it can't exceed 12mph.
Nice

The one here is done after dark and apparently the goal is to be as drunk, loud and as intimidating as possible to the cars trapped for the time they pass. Pounding on car roofs and fenders gets you added points. The PD can't keep up with it cause it's so big now.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Nice

The one here is done after dark and apparently the goal is to be as drunk, loud and as intimidating as possible to the cars trapped for the time they pass. Pounding on car roofs and fenders gets you added points. The PD can't keep up with it cause it's so big now.
Yeah, we don't have those. I have seen enough videos of those ID10Ts.
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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Nice

The one here is done after dark and apparently the goal is to be as drunk, loud and as intimidating as possible to the cars trapped for the time they pass. Pounding on car roofs and fenders gets you added points. The PD can't keep up with it cause it's so big now.
Great And if a motorist was caught in this, how likely are they to be patient with me on the open road? These critical mass rides do more to tarnish the reputation of hipsters than almost anything else. It's D-bag behavior. A critical mass of police officers with paddy wagons and a bit of Chicago '68 crowd management would help disperse these shenanigans
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Great And if a motorist was caught in this, how likely are they to be patient with me on the open road? These critical mass rides do more to tarnish the reputation of hipsters than almost anything else. It's D-bag behavior. A critical mass of police officers with paddy wagons and a bit of Chicago '68 crowd management would help disperse these shenanigans
I don't know if it tarnishes the reputation of hipsters, but it does of cyclists. Oh did I write that out loud?
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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I don't know if it tarnishes the reputation of hipsters, but it does of cyclists. Oh did I write that out loud?
Very accurate edit. Thanks for extrapolating what I meant
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Clovis Strong, NM
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Critical M-ass has taken cycling in S Cal backwards. It may have started with good intent but the drunk hipster crowd has turned it into a hated event.
Seems like cycling has two extremes at either ends.
The snobby road crowd that eschews anything not moving above 20+ mph, not on the latest bike, and not decked out in expensive gear.
Then the aforementioned hipsters who spend the same amount of money on beer, over-priced fixed-gears, and trendy-trashy clothes.

Apart from CM, the Midnight Ridazz crowd at least has plenty of other slow-paced, social rides to choose from. Apart from introducing newcomers to bicycles, I consider it a nice alternative to hitting trendy clubs with dress-codes or the other, high-priced things stereotypically associated with the weekend.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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"How can planners attract the 60 percent of Americans who say they would bike more if they felt more secure? The answer could be cheap and simple."
Bike buddies.

I've been commuting ~100mpw for a year, but I would have been commuting for years had someone guided me out of the gate. It's extremely difficult to jump the various hurdles to practical biking, let alone confronting one's reasonable fear of collissions. As a result, it's easy to dismiss the whole activity on account of danger.

My vision: a potential cyclist would search Ixquick, as I did, for "biking Denver." The local biking resource would offer a number that the new cyclist would contact and to whom he'd give his intended route. Then a volunteer bike buddy, whose typical route is similar to the cyclist's, would escort the new cyclist until the cyclist is comfortable.

One can find lightly travelled streets across which to commute and on which to build confidence, but there's still the worries about how to use the bus/bike rack and what to do if it's filled, or how to be confident when a driver is yelling at you for not staying on the sidewalk, or how to handle awkward intersections. It's tough to start biking.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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Bicyclist struck, killed by semi on Near North Side - chicagotribune.com

If we take the lane, we are honked at and harassed. If we don't, bad things happen. Good example of why protected bike lanes are essential for safe, urban cycling
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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Abolish zoning regulations so more people can live within biking distance of work.

Abolish outdated laws requiring bicycles to be in roads and require them to ride on sidewalks where available. At the time these were created bicycles were in the roads just like horses which I suppose made a certain sort of sense when the bicyle was the only vehicle technologically between a wagon and a train. However, technology has moved on. A guy on a bicycle isn't that much wider than a person on foot, and a cyclist on pedestrian accident will usually have a much happier outcome than a car on cyclist accident. Put in more sidewalks instead of bike lanes.
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