DFW not the same (Houston, Austin: new house, live, mall)

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

This is basically the story. Though, you also have to include much of the Hill Country.

I think most hill country towns still have that happy, Texas vibe though. Maybe not for much longer.

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by Bullandram1

I think some of the people that are triggered by this post are the ones that walk around like zombies and don’t smile back, nod, or acknowledge the people that acknowledge them as they walk by. That’s ok… you’re further proving my point. That’s not a Texan thing to do. That’s how I know most of these people just moved here. I guess I just need to adapt to that.

You should consider moving out of a big city. There are plenty nice places still in Texas.

[Bullandram1]

Originally Posted by supfromthesite

You should consider moving out of a big city. There are plenty nice places still in Texas.

Yeah you’re 100% right. Def will retire outside of a big city.

[tcualum]

Originally Posted by tmtex

That's a first, FW snooty. Dallas yes. Yes it has changed. Houses, shopping centers, apartments everywhere . Traffic is horrendous and then there is crime. All different than 20+ yrs ago.

I'm assuming you're being sarcastic with the last line. I was born in Dallas and grew up there. I remember when they were debating about what to do with Central because the traffic was so bad. Many of the "experts" wanted to double-decker it until a guy who wasn't an expert suggested sinking it. I grew up being told to be careful going out at night and going shopping at malls.I remember there being houses, shopping centers and apartments all over the place. I remember when the big discussion was what would happen in RISD school now that apartment complexes couldn't ban children anymore. There are just taller and more compact apartment complexes. I remember taking figure skating lessons at Prestonwood Mall and competing at the Galleria and Plaza of the Americas. There's always been a lot of shopping it's just that a lot of it has moved out of malls.

Things change over 20 years. Would you want to live in a static city or a living one like Dallas that grows and develops?

[CMC_TX]

Originally Posted by Bullandram1

As someone who was born and raised in DFW I feel like it’s changed so much. I feel like it went from simplicity to chaos. I took a trip to Fort Worth and quickly wanted to leave. Felt very snooty and no one acknowledges or makes eye contact with you there.

Every neighbor I talk to is not even from Texas. The traffic is crazy now. I’m glad I don’t have to travel far for work. If the climate change map is accurate there’s no way Texas will be comfortable temp wise. Is anybody who has lived here for a long time seen this weird energy shift?

I know there are a lot of positives too, but when the foundation has changed and you start to feel like a stranger in your own area that’s another thing.

Totally agree! An article recently came out saying DFW is the most expensive Metro in the state! It’s great to have growth and jobs, but not at this pace. It takes forever to get anywhere, and now developers are already buying land as far North as Sherman … too many people, houses they’re building are ugly

[brock2010]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Even Amarillo has changed a lot for a town that size. Abilene, Wichita Falls, Laredo, San Angelo, and Longview are the ones that seem to have changed the least.

Of the small Texas cities Waco, by far, has changed the most since Ive been here.

Don't forget the Texarkana area. It hasn't changed either.

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by supfromthesite

I think most hill country towns still have that happy, Texas vibe though. Maybe not for much longer.

That's the thing, you have to look forward. The Hill Country, at least the nicer towns, are headed toward mini-Jackson WY situations (maybe not quite that extreme, but you get the idea).

[Rogarven]

Originally Posted by NTXPerson

I do not like the sprawling growth though. I liked when everything and everyone I knew lived more central in DFW. But that’s just me not liking long drives. I had never even heard of McKinney, Roanoke, Denton, Melissa, Forney, etc. until during and after college. Those places were considered the boonies! That is the nature of the beast though when you have mass migration to one area.

I was in graduate school at UNT in the late '70s. It is interesting to me to come back to Dallas and see how things have changed and, as mentioned, those small towns like Ponder, Little Elm, Frisco, The Colony have just become one big suburban sprawl. Even around DFW airport, I remember it being fields . And the Tollway was rather "out there" with Valley View Mall being all by itself. Stopping at Braums on TX121 and I35 seemed open as well. And now it is pretty much built up from Lewisville to Denton. I still think Dallas is an exciting place . Just wish we would have bought inside LBJ freeway when we were there. LOL

[tmtex]

Originally Posted by tcualum

I'm assuming you're being sarcastic with the last line. I was born in Dallas and grew up there. I remember when they were debating about what to do with Central because the traffic was so bad. Many of the "experts" wanted to double-decker it until a guy who wasn't an expert suggested sinking it. I grew up being told to be careful going out at night and going shopping at malls.I remember there being houses, shopping centers and apartments all over the place. I remember when the big discussion was what would happen in RISD school now that apartment complexes couldn't ban children anymore. There are just taller and more compact apartment complexes. I remember taking figure skating lessons at Prestonwood Mall and competing at the Galleria and Plaza of the Americas. There's always been a lot of shopping it's just that a lot of it has moved out of malls.

Things change over 20 years. Would you want to live in a static city or a living one like Dallas that grows and develops?

No not being sarcastic on the last sentence. Yes its all different then 20+ yrs ago

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

That's the thing, you have to look forward. The Hill Country, at least the nicer towns, are headed toward mini-Jackson WY situations (maybe not quite that extreme, but you get the idea).

That would be horrible. There is nothing to look forward to in that scenario. People from Wyoming typically hate Jackson hole