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View Poll Results: Do you think Dallas needs a third airport?
Yes 16 34.04%
No 31 65.96%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2023, 10:34 AM
 
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What matters is how the big corporate employers in Collin County feel about it. If they start making noise about having another airport, it's way more likely to happen.
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Old 03-15-2023, 10:51 AM
 
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New York City metro area has something like 7 commercial airports.
FWIW, LA metro has 6. It seems Chicago may be a bit of an outlier.


To add: Even Chicago has a bit of a third airport. Although not in the metro boundary, Rockford markets its airport as Chicago Rockford and serves the western suburbs.

Also, Milwaukee airport is surprisingly close and serves northern Chicago suburbs.
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Old 03-15-2023, 12:27 PM
 
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New York City metro area has something like 7 commercial airports.
FWIW, LA metro has 6. It seems Chicago may be a bit of an outlier.


To add: Even Chicago has a bit of a third airport. Although not in the metro boundary, Rockford markets its airport as Chicago Rockford and serves the western suburbs.

Also, Milwaukee airport is surprisingly close and serves northern Chicago suburbs.
None of those three metros have a mega-airport larger than the land area of Manhattan that hasn't even been fully built out.

The original plan for DFW Airport called for 12 terminals and DFW's current capacity can handle triple the number of flights it handles today, contingent on building more terminals.
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Old 03-15-2023, 12:44 PM
 
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The original plan for DFW Airport called for 12 terminals and DFW's current capacity can handle triple the number of flights it handles today, contingent on building more terminals.

Maybe, but it's location is getting worse as the metroplex grows north and west, and even south in the next decade or two. It's like downtown Dallas, no longer core.
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Old 03-15-2023, 01:19 PM
 
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Maybe, but it's location is getting worse as the metroplex grows north and west, and even south in the next decade or two. It's like downtown Dallas, no longer core.
Airports have never been located in downtown cores or anywhere near them for that matter. There's no rational reason to spend billions of dollars building a brand-new airport with all the supporting infrastructure that comes with it when you already have an existing airport with capacity to spare.

If we're anywhere near seeing JFK-style delays and slot controls at DFW, sure.
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Old 03-15-2023, 02:30 PM
 
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Airports have never been located in downtown cores or anywhere near them for that matter.
I'm not saying they should be near downtown, I'm saying it's comparable to downtown in terms of utility. They simply aren't that expensive to construct, so having loads of extra capacity is irrelevant if it's not a workable drive for the majority of people who want to go there.


If it was that important, we wouldn't have airports at Love, Addison, Alliance, DFW etc, currently. Airports require proximity, just like everything else does.
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Old 03-15-2023, 03:00 PM
 
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I'm not saying they should be near downtown, I'm saying it's comparable to downtown in terms of utility. They simply aren't that expensive to construct, so having loads of extra capacity is irrelevant if it's not a workable drive for the majority of people who want to go there.
It would be a government project which means a 100% guarantee that it will cost at least double or triple the initial cost estimate and be a completed at least a decade late. When all is said and done, building on existing property is always going to cost less than building on new land that's going to have to be bought, go through years of lawsuits etc. Istanbul's new airport had a $12 billion price tag and it was built in the middle of nowhere. This doesn't include extending the Istanbul Metro out there.

Compared to other metros with large populations, DFW and Love are relatively easily accessible and will be for at least a decade if not longer. DFW isn't Gatwick.

And people for whom airport access is a priority aren't going to be moving to outer Celina where access to the airport is difficult. They already know where the airports with commercial service are.

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If it was that important, we wouldn't have airports at Love, Addison, Alliance, DFW etc, currently. Airports require proximity, just like everything else does.
We have a half a dozen airports but only 2 of them have anything in the way of serious commercial service - Love and DFW.
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Old 03-15-2023, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Lake Highlands - Dallas
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I travel just about every other week and it does seem like both Love and DFW are extremely busy. I’d welcome a third airport to ease some of the congestion I deal with.
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Old 03-16-2023, 11:28 AM
 
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We keep hearing about the metroplex growing north to the Oklahoma border. Whenever that happens then we will need a second airport up that way. Yes I said second, because I think Love field is pointless where it is. It will need to shut down and move north! DFW can cover the lower metro while the new Love covers the north!
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Old 03-17-2023, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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No. DFW isn't even fully built out yet.

And as if I need my property taxes to go up even more.
This!! It makes no sense to have another airport until DFW is built out. What would be the reason for DFW being the size of Manhattan, if we're not going to use to fully utilize it to keep up with the growth? Until then, a new airport is truly a waste.
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