What will Detroit be like in 2020? (Dearborn, Novi: 2014, unemployed, income)

[bgibs]

Detroit has one of the highest unemployment rates in the United States. Is it because there aren't enough jobs in the city or is it because most Detroiters are too uneducated and unqualified for those jobs? 50% of Detroit residents are illiterate and Detroit Public Schools has a 25% graduation rate. It might be too early to ask but have graduation rates gotten better in DPS? Do you think Governor Snyder's plan will make Detroit Public Schools better?

[jaynarie]

Originally Posted by bgibs

Do you think Governor Snyder's plan will make Detroit Public Schools better?

Thank you for the laugh. In short, not a chance.

Originally Posted by bgibs

Is it because there aren't enough jobs in the city or is it because most Detroiters are too uneducated and unqualified for those jobs?

To put it simply, both. I'd put unqualified as the more prevalent issue. Hopefully it will change, since growth will breed more growth. The job growth downtown will eventually trickle out and there will be more unskilled opportunities, since there will be a need for more retail, maintenance, landscaping, etc...

Historically, the majority of jobs in Detroit (along with Flint and Saginaw) never required an education. When you take these jobs away, you have skilled tradesmen with no where to work. Their skills didn't transfer to other available jobs. It created a domino effect and other businesses closed. So now you have a population stuck in generational poverty.

[MS313]

Originally Posted by bgibs

Detroit has one of the highest unemployment rates in the United States. Is it because there aren't enough jobs in the city or is it because most Detroiters are too uneducated and unqualified for those jobs? 50% of Detroit residents are illiterate and Detroit Public Schools has a 25% graduation rate. It might be too early to ask but have graduation rates gotten better in DPS? Do you think Governor Snyder's plan will make Detroit Public Schools better?

Some of your facts are quite a bit off. Supposedly 47% of Detroit is illiterate so you were right about that according to statistics. But Detroit's graduation rate is 71%, improved from 65% the year before. Nowhere near 25%.

And many of the job centers started growing out in the suburbs along with white fight. That's the main reason why there are I think 8 CBD's in Detroit now.

[02blackgt]

I think that 2020 Detroit will be very similar to today's Detroit with more improvements in the key areas (downtown, midtown mainly). I think the city needs a lot more than 5 years before its neighborhoods begin to be revived with educated, hard working, middle class people who pay meaningful taxes to the city. I am not trying to say that there are none of these people now, but there sure as hell are not enough.

For the inner city neighborhoods to really flourish, Detroit needs to get a grip on crime and the public school system. I know it is like playing a broken record, but no family in Rochester Hills or Macomb Twp. is even going to consider uprooting their life there to live in the city with its current conditions. IMO, Detroit as a whole has not exited its down-spin cycle quite yet. The improvements that have been made are great and should not be discounted, but by and large they really only benefit the 9-5 workers who mostly hop in the cars and blast past 8 mile heading north the minute work is over.

[WayneCounty]

Originally Posted by bgibs

Detroit has one of the highest unemployment rates in the United States. Is it because there aren't enough jobs in the city or is it because most Detroiters are too uneducated and unqualified for those jobs? 50% of Detroit residents are illiterate and Detroit Public Schools has a 25% graduation rate. It might be too early to ask but have graduation rates gotten better in DPS? Do you think Governor Snyder's plan will make Detroit Public Schools better?

You just answered your question. Detroit's downright crappy education system has caused a generation of young blacks with high illiteracy rates and low graduation rates... A bunch who can't get jobs except for flipping burgers at Mickie D's and dealing coke on the street corners.

[bgibs]

What neighborhoods outside of Downtown, Midtown, and New Center are currently in transition or have recently gotten better? What neighborhoods are too far gone to save?

[brodie734]

Originally Posted by bgibs

What neighborhoods outside of Downtown, Midtown, and New Center are currently in transition or have recently gotten better? What neighborhoods are too far gone to save?

Corktown.

A lot.

[memph]

Originally Posted by bgibs

What neighborhoods are too far gone to save?

Probably at least half the city. This shows where vacant lots and homes are.
https://www.motorcitymapping.org/#t=...1892&x=preset2

[usroute10]

Originally Posted by bgibs

What neighborhoods outside of Downtown, Midtown, and New Center are currently in transition or have recently gotten better?

-The East Riverfront/Rivertown
-The Villages area (which includes the neighborhood of West Village, Indian Village, Islandview Village, Joseph Barry Subdivision, and the Gold Coast)
-Mexicantown
-Milwaukee-Junction
-Banglatown (neighborhood north of Hamtramck)
-Palmer Park Apartments

Originally Posted by bgibs

What neighborhoods are too far gone to save?

Brightmoor, Delray, Dexter-Davison, Poletown, and alot of other neighborhoods that either don't have names or I am not familiar with them.


Other good neighborhoods that have stayed relatively the same -
-University Commons (includes the neighborhoods of Palmer Woods, Detroit Golf Club Estates, Green Acres, University District, and Sherwood Forest. The neighborhoods of Bagley and Martin Park have declined a little bit)

-Grandmont-Rosedale (includes the neighborhoods of Rosedale Park, North Rosedale Park, Grandmont, Grandmont #1, and Minock Park)

-East English Village

[bgibs]

I think Atlanta would be a good example for Detroit to follow. Atlanta used to be the murder capital from the 70s to early 90s then the city progressed under Ralph David Abernathy after the 90s Olympics. The city became safer and became a city for professional blacks. The projects were torn down and the poor moved to nearby counties such as Clayton and South Dekalb. Atlanta has a middle-class professional black population that even Chicago and Philadelphia are low on. The black populations of Chicago and Philadelphia are stagnant. 92% of black men in Chicago are unemployed and there isn't much black prosperity in Philadelphia. Atlanta has black poverty but not to the extent of Chicago and Detroit. I know Atlanta is a younger city and didn't really face deindustrialization, corruption, and race riots like Detroit. What can Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, and other black cities do to become more like Atlanta?