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Old 01-07-2024, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I’m not sure I believe this.

This seems more like a plot to stop people from eating red meat, so we can somehow “save the planet”.

I firmly believe that high consumption of processed carbohydrates causes diabetes. Also, if you consume a high amount of carbs, along with a high amount of fats and very low fiber, you are exacerbating your health even worse.

Anyway, here is the article (even though I’m having a difficulty believing it).

https://www.foxnews.com/health/diabe...rd-researchers
I will qualify my comments in that some people seem to be able to eat what they want and others not so much before it's a problem.

The person I trust the most (DR. Gundry) based on his theories corrected my autoimmune issues says that there is a sugar enzyme in red meat that will cause innumerable problems over time. I still eat some red meat but have significantly curtailed my consumption of red meat.
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Old 01-07-2024, 07:48 PM
 
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I am skeptical of this. Who sponsored the research on this?

They claim if you eat red meat two times or more a week you are 62% more likely to get type 2 diabetes.
The older generation of my entire extended family ate red meat about 3x/week, and no one got diabetes.

Next "brilliant" theory?
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Old 01-07-2024, 07:51 PM
 
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I will qualify my comments in that some people seem to be able to eat what they want and others not so much before it's a problem.

The person I trust the most (DR. Gundry) based on his theories corrected my autoimmune issues says that there is a sugar enzyme in red meat that will cause innumerable problems over time. I still eat some red meat but have significantly curtailed my consumption of red meat.
According to Dr. Gundry, lots of ordinary foods are potentially toxic, including oatmeal. If he's so right about everything, and the info he shares is so crucially important as he'd have us believe, why does he make us sit through over 1/2 hr. of blather before telling us what not to eat, and why?
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Old 01-07-2024, 08:30 PM
 
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According to Dr. Gundry, lots of ordinary foods are potentially toxic, including oatmeal. If he's so right about everything, and the info he shares is so crucially important as he'd have us believe, why does he make us sit through over 1/2 hr. of blather before telling us what not to eat, and why?
I also wish he was more to the point. Well, I can tell you that since following Dr. Gundry recommendations, I've completely fixed pretty much all of my previously serious health issues and now remarkable fit and healthy. Some people don't seem to have the same issues so if you are one who has no issues with the problems he is addressing, just consider yourself fortunate.
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Old 01-08-2024, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I will qualify my comments in that some people seem to be able to eat what they want and others not so much before it's a problem.

The person I trust the most (DR. Gundry) based on his theories corrected my autoimmune issues says that there is a sugar enzyme in red meat that will cause innumerable problems over time. I still eat some red meat but have significantly curtailed my consumption of red meat.
I know. I tried listening to him but lost interest when he started listing all his accomplishments…got flashbacks from a few arrogant docs. Ugh. I know he’s trying to sell a product I wish he’d get to it. The green stuff he says is great is sold at Sprouts. I forget the name of it.

Most of the stuff Dr Gundry talks about I don’t like anyway. My aunt had diabetes and she lived until she was 93. Her oldest sister wasn’t diabetic and she lived till 102 and she ate whatever she wanted…as long as it was fresh. She never ate anything processed.

Who on earth wants to live that long though.
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Old 01-08-2024, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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I'm sure Harvard copied that from some other study!
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Old 01-08-2024, 06:00 AM
 
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I know. I tried listening to him but lost interest when he started listing all his accomplishments…got flashbacks from a few arrogant docs. Ugh. I know he’s trying to sell a product I wish he’d get to it. The green stuff he says is great is sold at Sprouts. I forget the name of it.

Most of the stuff Dr Gundry talks about I don’t like anyway. My aunt had diabetes and she lived until she was 93. Her oldest sister wasn’t diabetic and she lived till 102 and she ate whatever she wanted…as long as it was fresh. She never ate anything processed.

Who on earth wants to live that long though.
Gundry's not the only person that I listen to on health and nutrition but his book (Plant Paradox) turned my life around from serious health problems to completely correct my issues it appears. I may longer be breathing had I not discovered his book and advice. I'm currently remarkably fit and healthy in looks and feel. For sure a diet based on his recommendations is very restrictive and expensive. Most doctors I don't think have a clue on nutrition and it shows.

I believe diabetes is at least somewhat genetic combined with diet. My wife's Mom is 92 and eats cake, pie, ice cream and cookies at will and has no blood sugar issues, her weight is heavy though. Wife can do the same and probably eats about 20 times more carbs than I. My Father and Grandfather had diabetes and now I do. My diet is so restrictive that I've pretty much reversed it at least to a significant degree.

My Aunt lived until 96 and was pissed at God for having her live that long, she was ready to move on long before she was taken from the living.
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Old 01-08-2024, 10:19 AM
 
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I also wish he was more to the point. Well, I can tell you that since following Dr. Gundry recommendations, I've completely fixed pretty much all of my previously serious health issues and now remarkable fit and healthy. Some people don't seem to have the same issues so if you are one who has no issues with the problems he is addressing, just consider yourself fortunate.
Well, IDK if my issues are his issues; it's hard to wade through his lectures and stick 'em out to the crucial info at the end, and isn't there usually some sales pitch at the end? Buy these supplements, or this or that book, I don't recall, tbh. But that's great that his guidance actually helped you! I'm happy for you, and I take your testimony at face value; it means there is something of substance to his research.
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Old 01-08-2024, 10:25 AM
 
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Gundry's not the only person that I listen to on health and nutrition but his book (Plant Paradox) turned my life around from serious health problems to completely correct my issues it appears. I may longer be breathing had I not discovered his book and advice. I'm currently remarkably fit and healthy in looks and feel. For sure a diet based on his recommendations is very restrictive and expensive. Most doctors I don't think have a clue on nutrition and it shows.

I believe diabetes is at least somewhat genetic combined with diet. My wife's Mom is 92 and eats cake, pie, ice cream and cookies at will and has no blood sugar issues, her weight is heavy though. Wife can do the same and probably eats about 20 times more carbs than I. My Father and Grandfather had diabetes and now I do. My diet is so restrictive that I've pretty much reversed it at least to a significant degree.

My Aunt lived until 96 and was pissed at God for having her live that long, she was ready to move on long before she was taken from the living.
Is his recommended diet mostly vegetarian? Is he one of those specialists who recommends a vegetarian diet for diabetes, rather than a high-protein (usually meat/fish/fowl and/or dairy) diet? For people already on a high-protein low-carb diet for diabetes or pre-diabetes, switching over is difficult at best, and not doable for many. And even Gundry doesn't allow certain forms of plant protein: beans, for example.

But you say, even though his diet is pretty restrictive, it's really boosted your health, so that's worth the effort, clearly. So, has the diet put your diabetes into remission? Or it's allowed you to get off of insulin? I hope you don't mind if I pick your brain.
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Old 01-08-2024, 07:37 PM
 
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Is his recommended diet mostly vegetarian? Is he one of those specialists who recommends a vegetarian diet for diabetes, rather than a high-protein (usually meat/fish/fowl and/or dairy) diet? For people already on a high-protein low-carb diet for diabetes or pre-diabetes, switching over is difficult at best, and not doable for many. And even Gundry doesn't allow certain forms of plant protein: beans, for example.

But you say, even though his diet is pretty restrictive, it's really boosted your health, so that's worth the effort, clearly. So, has the diet put your diabetes into remission? Or it's allowed you to get off of insulin? I hope you don't mind if I pick your brain.
His diet is mostly plants (certain plants), no grains, good fats like olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, certain nuts, and limited meat protein which would be wild caught seafood or grass fed beef, free range chicken. He also has a Keto version for people (like me) that have diabetes.

I've pretty much put diabetes in remission and don't take any meds but it requires me to be steadfast in eating a very low carb diet as well as avoid grains and other plant lectins. I'm currently in great shape with low bodyfat and high muscle and strength, low BP, etc.
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