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Old 05-06-2012, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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OK, I'm not a fruit type person (can't stand them) but I have always said - if it's in a liquid, I might be able to force it down.

My daughter wants me to try this for 3 days (the Renovator).

Anyone tried this?
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:22 AM
 
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This is very popular in New York right now. I've never tried myself, but I have a few friends who have done it. Also a few girls at my work. They've also started selling this at the Whole Foods in New York. I personally don't like the idea of drinking something that's unpasturized yet mass produced.

Let's just say I've never seen someone on a juice cleanse look happy. It actually looks like the most miserable thing I've ever seen and people get VERY tired while in them. Here's an article the Times did on them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/fa...pagewanted=all
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:21 AM
 
Location: In a house
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It's a sham, just like all "cleanse" liquid diets. The entire program is based on the myth that your body builds up toxins and is not capable of eliminating them without their product.

Consider that myth:

Where are all the dead people who weren't able to eliminate those toxins, and didn't have this product?

If your blood has been tainted with toxins, then your blood is poisoned. If your blood is poisoned, then eventually you'll end up in the hospital or dead. A "cleanse diet" won't fix that. You'd need an antidote to poison, or possibly a blood transfusion. Drinking copious amounts of mineral-fortified kale juice isn't going to solve the problem of toxic blood.

It's a little different for colon cleansing - the colon is capable of eliminating waste all by itself. Miraculously enough, that is its function. The only time you'd need to do ANYTHING with the colon, is if it isn't doing what it is designed to do, by itself. And if that's happening, then drinking extra-fortified orange juice with pulverized sawgrass isn't going to make it work properly again.

If you want to juice up because it FEELS good to juice up, or because you enjoy the taste, or because you just feel like a liquid meal replacement is more convenient in a busy work environment, then enjoy. If you are doing it because the website claims it'll cure your gout, then you're just another sucker making "big suppla" rich.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:41 AM
 
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I would imagine that drinking all of that juice would tend to have a "cleansing" effect on one's colon...
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Cleanses are pointless.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Miami, fl
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It's a sham, just like all "cleanse" liquid diets. The entire program is based on the myth that your body builds up toxins and is not capable of eliminating them without their product.

Consider that myth:

Where are all the dead people who weren't able to eliminate those toxins, and didn't have this product?

If your blood has been tainted with toxins, then your blood is poisoned. If your blood is poisoned, then eventually you'll end up in the hospital or dead. A "cleanse diet" won't fix that. You'd need an antidote to poison, or possibly a blood transfusion. Drinking copious amounts of mineral-fortified kale juice isn't going to solve the problem of toxic blood.
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It could cause you to end up in the hospital... or dead... or perhaps a metabolic disease? Not all toxins are black and white - dead or not dead. So can have minimal effects of making you feel tired all day.
However the benefit of the "juicing" diets may not be in the cleansing - but probably more of curing deficiencies in a number of vitamins and nutrients. Lots of people on both the web and around me claim juicing works wonders - so either there is something to it or it is a great placebo effect - either way does it matter?
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:03 AM
 
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Juicing is nothing more and nothing less than the process of pulverizing perfectly edible whole foods into a liquid, and then drinking it.

Unless you have no teeth, or a digestive disorder that prevents the breaking down of solids into waste, then there is no *need* to juice.

Juicing is either an alternative or an adjunct to eating chewable foods. You can macerate it before it gets to your mouth, or macerate it in your mouth. That's all it is. It's letting a machine do all the chewing for you so you don't have to do it yourself.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Miami, fl
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Juicing is nothing more and nothing less than the process of pulverizing perfectly edible whole foods into a liquid, and then drinking it.

Unless you have no teeth, or a digestive disorder that prevents the breaking down of solids into waste, then there is no *need* to juice.

Juicing is either an alternative or an adjunct to eating chewable foods. You can macerate it before it gets to your mouth, or macerate it in your mouth. That's all it is. It's letting a machine do all the chewing for you so you don't have to do it yourself.
Not true -- the removal of fiber allow you to eat more nutrient dense foods. Lets assume if you eat carrots directly you can eat a bag of them - but with juicing you can eat 3 bags - that means 3 times as many vitamins, minerals and micronutrients than you would have consumed otherwise. It is supercharging the nutrition per unit weight of the food you eat.

As I was thinking more on toxins - there probably is some removal. The majority probably comes from the toxins you are avoiding by eating crushed vegetables and not refined foods. However, toxins are also stored in fat and as you lose it these toxins are released and can sometimes make a person feel sick and lethargic. By avoiding the intake of new toxins (by something like juicing) you can ease the "detoxification" process.

Here is a decent summary on it:
Detoxification During Weight Loss

Here is a study looking specifically at PCBs
Increase in plasma pollutant levels in response t... [Metabolism. 2002] - PubMed - NCBI
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