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Old 12-12-2016, 05:02 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Yes Dog as in you will get a Dog Killed along with the live stock! If indeed you have Coyotes.

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Old 12-12-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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The pound in Prineville Oregon is chock full of cattle dog crosses, many of them puppies. Nearly everyone of them would make a good farm dog,

Small livestock needs to be securely contained at night. That means chickens closed into their coop and goats in their barn.
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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A farm dog can really be any breed that will stick around. And Austrailan Shepherd (Aussie) or an Australian cattle dog (heeler) either one would be fine, a little more independent, if that is what you like? They are also great house dogs.

The Aussie has more hair, so the more hair, the more work (I mean for a farm dog). There are working aussies with less hair, and mixes thereof.
The type of property you have may help you decide on the coat (lots of burrs, you'd want less coat).

You might also look at curs. Black mouth, catahoula, blue lacy. They are all very protective as well, and some are a bit larger. Read about them first, they might not fit. None of the above are "easy" or soft dogs.

But all of the above do tend to stay around their place, though you can't just leave them all day loose. Until you will be there all day, you would still have to put them up safely.
Some people do leave them, but not a good starting point. When you are there you could easily rely on all of the above to stick around. The only issue you might have is with delivery people, strangers, etc...

What is your preference in personality type? That might help for advice.

Just for example you couldn't pay me to live with a golden retriever, or a pitbull, or even a border collie, they are (not all of them) way too soft and needy for me. Nothing against either breed at all! And I know there are some that are more independent. I love everything about the pitbull in particular, they are just not quite independent enough for me. Even my GSD follows me to the bathroom, he is a little needy I just got a Yorkie mix puppy, because I needed an independent warning barker to go with my pretty quiet, and not very stranger aware heeler x and my GSD. The is sometimes an all around farm dog that you will find, and then you sometimes need different dogs for different reasons.

Check your local Craigslist, pound, etc... if you are in Texas, any Craigslist is chock full of dogs needing homes, (advertised on CL before they get dumped - hopefully at a shelter). I would choose a pup, unless you can find an adult that fits your needs (including not chasing strange cats). Sometimes people have to place their farm dog for some reason, they are worth a lot imo, because you can see what you will get.

When you are ready for a livestock Guardian Animal, that will be a whole nuther story and like Oregonwoodsmoke said the livestock you have now just need to be locked up at night, and tight. MUCH Easier, and cheaper than a Guardian animal for the livestock you have.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Left coast
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Goats & Sheep You NEED a Lama!! They will Protect from Dogs Wolves Foxes & Coyote! I seen them take out Pit Bulls!
my friend has 2 llamas for his sheep- a coyote killed 2 last fall.
They aren't fool proof and they will also try to kill your pet dogs.
My neighbor had a wild burro- same - he got a dog to be in with his lambs (he bred lambs for the heirloom meat market)...
he had anatolian mixes, shorter coat might be better for Texas..
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Left coast
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For your house dog, and the cats, I would think a puppy might be best to start off with- some breeds are more easy going (less prey drive ) than others and you will be starting to acquire all your livestock, and plus the cats, its just LESS hassle in the long run to train a pup to suit.

If coat work is a concern you could go the standard or giant schnauzer route (I have a giant) they don't shed. I keep mine clipped but if you get the correct German wire coat they don't really need clipping...
They aren't easy dogs, as in they like having duties and things to do (but with a ranch I think that would be perfect) aren't needy but attentive and do follow you around (more that they need to be in on any action, than being insecure) and a great for watching over the household.
They aren't ball obsessed either (another thing that drives me nuts in a dog)... great companionship- important for a house dog -- a dogs suitability as a companion animal is what you are looking for, I think.

(PS forgot to add, the terriers, and the schnauzer is a terrier, do have prey drive- but thats why I said get a puppy, you can do anything with a puppy, pretty much even one hard wired to kill little things)...

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Old 12-12-2016, 12:32 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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If you want to spend some money and spend some time searching, a Farm Airedale will do exactly what you are looking for.

Tough, scrappy, loving with their people, good vermin control, child protector, can be trained to do any farm task, including herding and gun dog.

There are several good Farm Airedale breeders in Texas and Arizona.

I've got the ranch type of Australian Shepherd. Medium coat but very hard and slick that sheds burrs and dirt. Too much energy for a house dog, but he loves being a house dog, so he manages to do it. This is a dog that could learn to do anything. A bit too small to take on a pack of coyotes. He could handle one, bit I wouldn't count on just one coyote if they are coming for your dog. He can handle stock but he isn't really bred to be a fighter. In fact, he is bred to get along with all the other stock dogs when the neighbors get together to work cattle.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Great Pyrenees are popular Farm dogs as are Anatolia Shepherds. You could find one at a shelter/rescue in TX. In fact, this weekend I saw a post about a pyr in need in zTX.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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A catahoula for working, a friendly pit bull for cuddling
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Left coast
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Great Pyrenees are popular Farm dogs as are Anatolia Shepherds. You could find one at a shelter/rescue in TX. In fact, this weekend I saw a post about a pyr in need in zTX.
I almost suggest a pyr, but didn't think the coat would be much fun in texas- Romaneats has one as a house dog, I am sure she will chime in eventually-

I had to rehome a Pyr-anatolian mix to a friend (I had to move) and that was the best dog ever- he had a lighter coat so could handle 100 summer days as well as snowy winters...
very gentle with his animals (and they were HIS animals) including the house cats- wouldn't even let crows land on our land.
And, he kept a mountain lion off our stock, at a time the neighbors were losing theirs- neighbor shot it IN THEIR BARN over the body of his prize nanny goat after a month of predation.
In fact his personality was so well rounded, he would have been wasted purely as a LGD,- he could go from a fluffy white ball of fur to snarling wall of formidability in a a second flat, but,
I am glad he's essentially a house dog now (although has a acre yard, and they do have bear issues, they are an elderly couple and 2 cattle dogs so he still has his work overseeing a household)...
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Old 12-12-2016, 05:33 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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my friend has 2 llamas for his sheep- a coyote killed 2 last fall.
They aren't fool proof and they will also try to kill your pet dogs.
My neighbor had a wild burro- same - he got a dog to be in with his lambs (he bred lambs for the heirloom meat market)...
he had anatolian mixes, shorter coat might be better for Texas..
Any animal can be killed But some are better than others at protecting themselves & their buddies. My GF Wild Mustang kill quite a few neighbors dogs. When her & her DH divorced she gave Bay ...the Mustang to a Farmer that raise sheep. That farmer didn't have any problems after that. When my Trainer boarded a small heard of sheep her own AmStaff/Pit got in & killed them Not only did she replace the Sheep she got a Lama... It only took one time those dogs decide to stay out of the field!

I Raised Collies that had Great Herding abilities they also Guarded what ever the farmers had that need watched. Kept out packs of wild dogs that were killing local live stock. But the Collies WERE Not House dogs! They lived in the Barn!
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