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Old 05-25-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Actually in rural areas shooting loose dogs is very legal depending on what the dog is doing or what you can "claim" it's doing. Harassing livestock or aggression to you on your property in any rural place I've lived is grounds for termination.

Personally, I'd much prefer to visit such punishment on the owner as the dog is just being a dog but if you can't find the owner then there's not much choice.
Livestock/Horses health or safety vs loose dog? No brainer.
My state has that law, and there have been several cases in my area where it had been exercised, followed by the owners of the dogs in question actually trying to use the media to drum up sympathy for themselves and their poor "innocent" pets.
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Old 05-25-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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.......where do we expect them to pee?......
My dogs are trained to pee on my own lawn before we leave home. If your neighbors have lawns that you can use as a free bathroom for your dog, how come you don't have a lawn for your dog?

If you really don't have a lawn of your own, curb your dog. It's not that hard to train the dog where to do his business. You control where the dog is located. That's what your leash is for. Keep your dog off of other people's property.
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Old 05-25-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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A question --

If dog urine is such a hazard to lawns, then why do parks stay so green (at least in my area) when there are so many dogs using it for a public urinal?

(Not trying to continue the "feud", but I would really like to know.)
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Old 05-25-2017, 12:58 PM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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My dogs are trained to pee on my own lawn before we leave home. If your neighbors have lawns that you can use as a free bathroom for your dog, how come you don't have a lawn for your dog?

If you really don't have a lawn of your own, curb your dog. It's not that hard to train the dog where to do his business. You control where the dog is located. That's what your leash is for. Keep your dog off of other people's property.
well, in chicagoland, my dog does pee on his own lawn, and with public easements everywhere, its not an issue; I don't let him go on neighbors actual lawns.
but, in Arizona, where it appears there are no easements in any of the towns we have been looking to buy in, and almost no grass anywhere, including the houses we are interested in buying, my question once again is, where is your dog supposed to go relieve himself?

and, I never said that I let my dogs use my neighbors lawns as a "free bathroom", so please read before you go flinging baseless allegations..
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Old 05-25-2017, 11:09 PM
 
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My 7 1/2 mo Rottie has just started the habit of marking where other dogs have sprayed.
Although he has a pee before our walks, like most male dogs he seems to have an endless supply of urine to pee on every tree & pole he can find.

Trying to stop a headstrong, stubborn, powerfully built 35kg dog from marking isn't easy.
My last Rottie learned to **** his leg & mark, while barely breaking stride. It's what dogs do.

OP, the only way to stop dogs from peeing on your lawn is to build a fence or plant a hedge.
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Old 05-26-2017, 04:03 AM
 
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Sorry, I can't believe you think an owner can train a dog where to Pee. That is totally unrealistic expectations for even the most well behaved dog.
You on the other hand may be better off moving into a community or building where they don't allow dogs. Why aggravate yourself?
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Old 05-26-2017, 06:20 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Sorry, I can't believe you think an owner can train a dog where to Pee. That is totally unrealistic expectations for even the most well behaved dog.
You on the other hand may be better off moving into a community or building where they don't allow dogs. Why aggravate yourself?
And I can't believe you're that full of crap. Dogs can certainly be trained where and where not to go. They can also be RESTRAINED and kept off someone else's property.

And why should the OP have to look for something special? Train or restrain your frickin dog and keep it off property that doesn't belong to you!
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Old 05-26-2017, 07:21 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I'm a dog owner and never let my dog do his business in anyone's yard. It's just as easy to use the common areas or the public planting strip between the roads and sidewalks. We don't have issues in my hood with dog owners, but we sure do with cats that are allowed to roam or feral cats a neighbor feeds. I'd rather see those banned than dogs.
This is why I have a cat trap. I don't own cats, don't like cats and have no patience or want to pick up cat feces or tolerate their digging in my veggie garden to pee.
If people want to own cats then keep them to yourselves.
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Old 05-26-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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well, in chicagoland, my dog does pee on his own lawn, and with public easements everywhere, its not an issue; I don't let him go on neighbors actual lawns.
but, in Arizona, where it appears there are no easements in any of the towns we have been looking to buy in, and almost no grass anywhere, including the houses we are interested in buying, my question once again is, where is your dog supposed to go relieve himself?

and, I never said that I let my dogs use my neighbors lawns as a "free bathroom", so please read before you go flinging baseless allegations..
Well, as someone else who lives in AZ there is grass in most if not all subdivisions and in the yards of people who decide to plant it instead of dirt/rocks/cactus like we did for our dog. Dogs will also go in the desert, on concrete,asphalt or basically any area that you allow them to. I've seen dogs pee just walking down a sidewalk so it doesn't HAVE to be grass or bushes...
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Old 05-26-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Sorry, I can't believe you think an owner can train a dog where to Pee. That is totally unrealistic expectations for even the most well behaved dog.
You on the other hand may be better off moving into a community or building where they don't allow dogs. Why aggravate yourself?
Does your dog pee in the the house? How about on the walkaway up to your front door or in your car if you go for a ride?
Why doesn't it? Could it be TRAINED not to?
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