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Something sounds fishy. If I was that second adopter I would not hesitate in demanding my vet to turn over the medical records to the rescue. I actually feel so bad for the dog. Do you think the dog is getting the medical attention he needs? If not, I would take the dog back.
When I adopt an animal, I adopt all expenses with that animal. I know that is part of taking care of an animal. There is no way to guarantee the health of an animal either.
Something sounds fishy. If I was that second adopter I would not hesitate in demanding my vet to turn over the medical records to the rescue. I actually feel so bad for the dog. Do you think the dog is getting the medical attention he needs? If not, I would take the dog back.
When I adopt an animal, I adopt all expenses with that animal. I know that is part of taking care of an animal. There is no way to guarantee the health of an animal either.
I really think she blew things way out of proportion trying to make herself found good and now that we're demanding the vet records she's hoping by making him sound like he's doing better that we'll back off. Of course, that's just what I'm assuming and I've got no way to prove it.
No, I think he's in good hands. Her vet reference was probably one of the best I've ever gotten. The home visit was fabulous. Her pets are truly part of the family. It's a massive farm with a 12,000+ s/f 3 story barn that they converted to a huge house with a massive studio for her. There's no part of the land or home off limits. Land totally fenced so they're safe when they are outside playing. I just think she's a weird flake. Doesn't make her a bad pet parents. Just a different kind of human.
When I adopt an animal, I adopt all expenses with that animal. I know that is part of taking care of an animal. There is no way to guarantee the health of an animal either.
for sure. some friends of mine recently adopted a dog from a shelter who had kennel cough. that developed into pneumonia and they ended up spending thousands of dollars on vet bills. never ONCE did it occur to them to ask for their adoption fee back. an animal isn't a toaster, no vet or rescue can guarantee that nothing will go wrong with them once they're adopted.
The Rescue I am with and I believe the OP's rescue vets all their dogs before adopting them out. I have fostered many a dog who had heartworm and would not allow the dog to be adopted until it had a clean bill of health. Shelters and the Pound are a different story and shouldn't be mixed up with rescue organizations.
I've requested to the organization an exchange of dogs if there is a significant and definable reason for an othewise responsible owner - like it didn't get along with cats and there was no way of knowing this before hand or the one girl was allergic to this particular dog and I could vouch for the fact the dog had an unusually thick undercoat that shed and I exchanged it with a dog I was currently fostering right away or the exchange happened within the same week or month. But never a refund it is expressly stated in the contract and verbally relayed in the screening.
Our contracts also specify what we will cover in the event the dog does get sick within a certain period of time after the adoption takes place.
As sick as she has claimed he is, after pushing so hard for medical records yesterday she told me today that he's eating well and she has him on natural home made foods, etc and he's doing great so they're putting off his next EKG to get some weight on him and see if that helps.
His next ekg? Now I'm super-curious what his first one looked like. Do you know what kind of heart problem he's supposed to have?
His next ekg? Now I'm super-curious what his first one looked like. Do you know what kind of heart problem he's supposed to have?
At first she made it sound like it was something that was going to kill him. Then she later said he had an EKG but couldn't tell me the results. Then she said he needed a second. Then when I pushed for records she backed off and said they think it's because he's under weight. Really? 10 pounds underweight for a dog that's over 100 pounds already now causes heart problems? Then she said it's a heart murmur. I've had quite a few dogs with a heart murmur. They're not a huge issue. Hell, I've got one.
So when I really pushed she said she's putting it off to get weight on him and then the vet will decide if he needs the second one. It just all sounds too weird to me. I'm really thinking there's nothing more than the hernia, which is bad enough and will require surgery, but isn't life threatening.
At first she made it sound like it was something that was going to kill him. Then she later said he had an EKG but couldn't tell me the results. Then she said he needed a second. Then when I pushed for records she backed off and said they think it's because he's under weight. Really? 10 pounds underweight for a dog that's over 100 pounds already now causes heart problems? Then she said it's a heart murmur. I've had quite a few dogs with a heart murmur. They're not a huge issue. Hell, I've got one.
So when I really pushed she said she's putting it off to get weight on him and then the vet will decide if he needs the second one. It just all sounds too weird to me. I'm really thinking there's nothing more than the hernia, which is bad enough and will require surgery, but isn't life threatening.
OMG mrs....you definately got a good one going with this. You are right as far as #1 goes. You refunded their money - end of story and on to e-mail ignore. As far as #2....are you sure the dog is in good hands? I have to admit, I'd be answering every complaint with nothing more that "I completely understand...when would you like me to come and pick him up?" I'm sorry to hear that TN has lax laws for rescue. I know I'd be beating on her door by now with a leash in hand and a police escort if needed!
I kept getting threatening calls from the first adopter. I finally told her I’d refund the second adopters fee since the dog obviously had a medical condition when she picked him up. The two adopters are best buddies now and went back and forth with ‘give her my adoption fee’. I finally told them both I was sending the fee to the second adopter and blocking the e-mail address of the first because I wouldn’t engage in a battle and threats. I’m too busy to be juvenile.
So yesterday I get a call from the husband of the first adopter. Wants to know if there’s a problem. Uh………………….. no………………… Why? Well, we never got our refund. Um, I told your wife your not getting your refund. Well, she showed me an e-mail where you said you were sending it back and it was going to the second adopter and she told you to sent it to us and we’d send it to the adopter.
Well, don’t know what to tell you. If you look at that e-mail it also says I blocked your e-mail address so the e-mail she sent me went to the junk file. Aside from that me sending you money to send to the other adopter is stupid. I refunded her myself. So he says he thinks I’m lying and he’s calling the second adopter. Fine, whatever.
Go upstairs to get some coffee and I’m talking to a co-worker and my phone rings and it’s their phone number again. Good grief – what is the deal? I let it go to voicemail and checked it as I’m getting on the elevator to go back to my office. It’s the first adopter wife screaming that she called the second adopter who said I’m a liar and never sent the money to the first adopter and she’s going to tell everyone that I hurt animals and scam people out of money and adopt out sick pets!!
Well, now I’m royally ticked. You can scream at me all you want, but don’t lie about this rescue and its reputation. I’ve busted my butt for 15 years doing this, losing thousands upon thousands of dollars in the process. I’m not going to have some nutso flake ruin that.
So I go to the office and pull the refund confirmation from PayPal as well as money we’d initially collected for Jack’s medical care that was also sent to her and I sent it to the crazy first adopters. I attach a note telling them here it is, in black and white, that the second adopter got her fee plus extra in donations from other people for his medical bills. Told her if she contacts me again I’ll look into harassment charges and if I catch wind of her lying about this rescue I’ll contact and attorney and sue the life out of her.
Then I send the same files from PayPal to adopter two and tell her this is proof she was sent the money and if she didn’t get it she needs to contact her bank. She sends back she got that but didn’t get the other adoption fee. I told her that is the adoption fee from the first couple and they’re not being refunded. That money went to Jack’s vaccinations and neuter and transporting him to Georgia. So she has a fit and says none of this is their fault and they talk all the time and they did nothing wrong, yada yada. I remind her that she told me the dog was showing signs of sickness for three days before she got him and they did nothing. To which she says she misunderstood and the swelling started that afternoon. Oh please! A scrotal sac doesn’t swell to baseball size in a single afternoon. What a load of crap. Now that you’re friends you’ll lie to defend her.
So I remind her that I’ve asked at least half a dozen times for the vet paperwork which I’ve never received. I told her again that if her vet paperwork shows Jack had been sick a while and was sick when he went to the first adopter that I’ll refund them their money, but I won’t do it until I have vet records supporting what she’s telling me. Based on the initial information we received it sounded like he herniated due to lack of following instructions by the first adopter and then they neglected to have him vetted for several days and I’m not going refund based on those reasons.
She says she’s calling the vet to have his records faxed over. If they confirm what she says I’ll refund the crazy first adopters just to get this gone. I’m so sick of it. I’m tired of being stressed and not sleeping. They had a ‘friend’ of theirs on Facebook posting that I hurt animals and adopt sick animals and scam people out of money. We removed it from our page after printing it. If I hear a single rumor like that I swear I’ll sue him for libel. That really ticked me off. He’s in Texas for crying out loud and has no clue what’s going on over here, but he’ll lie about something like that? He’s supposedly an attorney and a vet in a two vet practice. I’m half tempted to have an attorney send him and his business partner a letter letting them know if it happens again they’ll have a libel suit on their doorstep seeing as he’s posting these things while advertising their vet office.
So, way stressed. Way angry. And still waiting for vet records. *sigh*
Holy crap! I don't know how you do it...you must have a heart of gold!
Some people have nothing better to do than just *itch about EVERYTHING! Unfortunately for you, it makes you guys look bad!
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I wish I could adopt him! 
