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Old 03-09-2013, 03:57 AM
 
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If you think about it, there is a lot larger market for advertizing aimed at middle and upper middle class listeners.

What is really needed is a book aimed at people struggling at the very bottom of the economic level. Interview people who have lifted themselves up from dire circumstances. There is a market from charities that might make these available at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and the like.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:03 AM
 
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they can just watch suzie ormann and her cast of financial misfits. only problem is those misfits represent a major part of this country i am sorry to say.

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Old 03-09-2013, 05:37 AM
 
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If you think about it, there is a lot larger market for advertizing aimed at middle and upper middle class listeners.

What is really needed is a book aimed at people struggling at the very bottom of the economic level. Interview people who have lifted themselves up from dire circumstances. There is a market from charities that might make these available at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and the like.
DR targets this demographic. His advice is very basic and simple.
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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If you think about it, there is a lot larger market for advertizing aimed at middle and upper middle class listeners.

What is really needed is a book aimed at people struggling at the very bottom of the economic level. Interview people who have lifted themselves up from dire circumstances. There is a market from charities that might make these available at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and the like.
Those books are around. Just go to the library where you can borrow them for free.

As far as homeless folks go....the hard core homeless usually have major psychological and emotional problems (usually going to back to childhood trauma of some sort such as phycial/sexual abuse) that motivational books aren't going to cure...although they certainly won't hurt.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:34 AM
 
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Some people are lucky. They come into money without per se earning it. Maybe they inherit it, or something works perfectly with their small business or investment. Some people in the tech business during the dot com heyday made millions via stock options but weren't really important to the success. And lots of these people have no idea how to manage their money other than the spend it.

Think about professional athletes. They can make huge amounts of money, and there is tons of data to show that many are broke after just a few years. Vince Young is a case study. These guys NEED someone like Ramsey. But they don't ask for help until after their entourage and free spending have done their damage.
vince young is one of the dumbest human beings on the face of the earth but to say athletes don't earn there money isn't really fair. they possess a skill that is high in demand that few people have.it's completely different than winning the lotto or inheriting money.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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Vince Young is one of the dumbest human beings on the face of the earth but to say athletes don't earn their money isn't really fair. They possess a skill that is high in demand that few people have. It's completely different than winning the lotto or inheriting money.
Agreed on both points. Pro-athletes work for years at essentially no pay before they get into the pros and then they only make big money for a few years. Their unions should push for mandatory financial counseling from the first day they become pro.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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the OP shows a very strong mind set in america. its the eddy murphy perception of the world. hard skills are irrelevant, saving and austerity are irrelevant and people have money bek they are white and lucky.
i get this all the time.
LOL
i have been more poor than most ghetto AA.
u dont know poor til u know french poor.
ramsey only preaches what was normal thinking and behavior 50 years ago, nothing new.
but to the y generation it sounds like crazy talk.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:59 PM
 
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the OP shows a very strong mind set in america. its the eddy murphy perception of the world. hard skills are irrelevant, saving and austerity are irrelevant and people have money because they are white and lucky.
i get this all the time.
LOL
i have been more poor than most ghetto AA.
u dont know poor til u know french poor.
ramsey only preaches what was normal thinking and behavior 50 years ago, nothing new.
but to the y generation it sounds like crazy talk.

lol @ french poor. How about congo civil war poor? Please. Poor is poor.

Hi, Y gen here. Googling hard and soft skills I found interesting answers to that exact phrase. Saving and austerity for me is 100% useless. Austerity being moving into a studio from a 2 bedroom place? or what exactly?

Eating rice and beans only, taking public transportation, not using a/c or heat, renting a studio, no internet, no tv, never eating out. Sounds like the life of a college student not a family or a real solution to the problem.

For me, saving is irrelevant because it doesn't cover basic bills and screw up on anything, health or financially, your savings is wiped out. Even if we went down to rent, utilities, food, vehicle cost only, we would still be living on the edge and we don't even live in California or high dense place. Cooking everything from scratch would be great, if we had time.This is the life of a family of three on a single person income.

But it's really funny a lot of people here talk trash about Y gen. Well this Y gen lived in an apartment with 4 other guys and still couldn't afford food. What was my alternative? Going into the dumpster and picking out food that people have thrown away. I did that for 3 months before I gave up and moved back into my parents, oh boy.

Now don't go into the whole "you have it better then a 3rd world country." We aren't talking about 3rd world countries, quit trying to side track this.

I am a little better financially, but you know... that thing called income taxes? It does 100% nothing for me. It zaps so much out of my check and does what? 100% nothing for me. I see Big O going to France, I see all these ex-politicians and presidents with life time body guards with... you guessed it ... TAXES. So I am confused why the Y generation is targeted so much when we just started.

Trying to eat your young or something? Guess you can replace us with immigrants, that's the goal right? While you live it up big and retired right?
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:09 PM
 
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Cooking everything from scratch would be great, if we had time.This is the life of a family of three on a single person income.

So I'm assuming this is:

2 Adults and one child.

1: Adult works
And the other adult doesn't work and DOESN'T have the time to cook?!?


I'll admit I've been so busy working that I didn't have much time to cook.... but then I was working 70-90 hours a week. And I STILL managed to cook a couple times a week!

Oh, I'm 30 BTW, so none of this 'you hate me because I'm generation Y' Please...
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:22 AM
 
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I'll admit I've been so busy working that I didn't have much time to cook.... but then I was working 70-90 hours a week. And I STILL managed to cook a couple times a week!

Oh, I'm 30 BTW, so none of this 'you hate me because I'm generation Y' Please...
I don't hate any generation. I have friends from their 20s into their 60s. I only brought up the whole Y gen thing because the other guy did. So why not bring an example instead of argue tit for tat.

You say you didn't have time to cook when you were working 70-90, then say you did. Which is it? It doesn't really matter what you think.
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