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Kids can't work their way through college nowadays because college is too expensive! We've seen double digit inflation in college prices for years.
As far as going to a 2yr college before transferring to a 4yr college, that's a good idea. But that strategy was unheard of when I was in college 20 years ago.
I think it's really unfair to pin the situation on young adults, who had no control over prices going through the roof.
Of course they can work and many do! That doesn't mean working through college will cover 100% of expenses, but it's certainly a very smart way to keep debt to a minimum.
I think the 2 year community college is more common in some states than others. When we were in California, a majority of the student went straight to community college after high school.
We have a dozen recent college graduates in our family. The most successful not only worked through school, but also volunteered and took leadership positions in campus organizations. When interview time came around, they had great references and work/leadership experience.
Of course they can work and many do! That doesn't mean working through college will cover 100% of expenses, but it's certainly a very smart way to keep debt to a minimum.
I think the 2 year community college is more common in some states than others. When we were in California, a majority of the student went straight to community college after high school.
We have a dozen recent college graduates in our family. The most successful not only worked through school, but also volunteered and took leadership positions in campus organizations. When interview time came around, they had great references and work/leadership experience.
The problem is that excessive work hours while doing school full-time tend to cause a lack of sleep and subsequent degradation of performance. I don't agree with the view that college kids should be expected to support themselves, because study after study has shown that a lack of sleep is linked to a loss of mental agility, and increased odds of a number of health problems.
We should be teaching our young folks to take good care of their health, not abuse it. People who get in the habit of abusing their body early in life will drive up future health care costs and misery.
Of course they can work and many do! That doesn't mean working through college will cover 100% of expenses, but it's certainly a very smart way to keep debt to a minimum.
I think the 2 year community college is more common in some states than others. When we were in California, a majority of the student went straight to community college after high school.
We have a dozen recent college graduates in our family. The most successful not only worked through school, but also volunteered and took leadership positions in campus organizations. When interview time came around, they had great references and work/leadership experience.
You see it's a fine distinction. I said that "kids can't work their way through college."
I didn't say "kids can't work while in college."
The problem is that excessive work hours while doing school full-time tend to cause a lack of sleep and subsequent degradation of performance. I don't agree with the view that college kids should be expected to support themselves, because study after study has shown that a lack of sleep is linked to a loss of mental agility, and increased odds of a number of health problems.
We should be teaching our young folks to take good care of their health, not abuse it. People who get in the habit of abusing their body early in life will drive up future health care costs and misery.
There are 24 hours in a day. If a person sleeps 8 hours then they have 16 hours to be productive. It's all about priorities, being organized, and time management.
There are 24 hours in a day. If a person sleeps 8 hours then they 16 hours to be productive. It's all about priorities, being organized, and time management.
Even if true, it doesn't change the fact that college education expenses have skyrocketed relative to inflation.
Even if true, it doesn't change the fact that college education expenses have skyrocketed relative to inflation.
How many young adults finish college with a degree compared to the number that start college after high school? I know you have first hand knowledge of the situation, and is it safe to say that the majority of students that are in default on their student loans are those who never finished college? I'm not even going to mention the number of students that scam the system by enrolling at a JC and never showing up for class or turning in assignments then choosing to take an incomplete in the class.
There are 24 hours in a day. If a person sleeps 8 hours then they have 16 hours to be productive. It's all about priorities, being organized, and time management.
There are other things one has to do in a day too, so it's not as though ALL 16 hours are available for work or school. Some time must also be reserved for incidentals and finals.
How many young adults finish college with a degree compared to the number that start college after high school? I know you have first hand knowledge of the situation, and is it safe to say that the majority of students that are in default on their student loans are those who never finished college? I'm not even going to mention the number of students that scam the system by enrolling at a JC and never showing up for class or turning in assignments then choosing to take an incomplete in the class.
So you want to deprive honest, hardworking young people of a chance simply because a few bad apples abuse the system?
That's like saying we should ban all knives because a few people commit suicide or cut themselves using knives.
So you want to deprive honest, hardworking young people of a chance simply because a few bad apples abuse the system?
That's like saying we should ban all knives because a few people commit suicide or cut themselves using knives.
Are you referring to a chance to be productive, responsible, organized, efficient users of their time, of course not. Ncole, now be honest with yourself, deep down in your heart you truly know it's more than a few bad apples. If they only did what they promised to do then we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Isn't that true?
There are other things one has to do in a day too, so it's not as though ALL 16 hours are available for work or school. Some time must also be reserved for incidentals and finals.
Ncole,
There are 168 hours in a week. If 56 are spent sleeping, and at the university level there should be 3 hours of homework for each hour of classwork, so that's 60 hours of school, that is a total of 116 hours in the week or 16.5 hours a day sleeping and performing school related activities. You still have 52 hours a week of discretionary time or 7.42 hours a day. That's a lot of incidentals.
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