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Old 06-25-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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And you attempting to applying any use k to tech isn't niche? Lulz
Also referring to 1024 instead of 1000 as we move to terabyes, pedabytes, and on is becoming arcane. They are all multiples of 1000, not of 1024 by all but the most technical.
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Old 06-25-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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Also referring to 1024 instead of 1000 as we move to terabyes, pedabytes, and on is becoming arcane. They are all multiples of 1000, not of 1024 by all but the most technical.
In the late 90's, the IEC came up with "kibibyte", "mebibyte", and such to have unambiguous terms for power-of-2 derived amounts (1 kibibyte (KiB) = 1024 bytes, for example). Their recommendation is that "kilo-" and such should only refer to the powers-of-10-derived units, retaining consistency with SI unit prefixes. This standard has since been adopted by IEEE, NIST, and ISO, so an argument can be made that the most technical use those terms (kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte, etc.) to mean the powers of 10.

The big sticking point to bringing this usage into common acceptance is that Microsoft operating systems continue to use the old binary definitions to compute file size -- a file of one million bytes will show as 976 KB in Windows, whereas in Mac OS X (Snow Leopard and later), the same file will show as 1 MB.

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Old 06-25-2015, 09:29 PM
 
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The use of K is. But as I so plainly noted earlier, you can always just pretend that the usage actually arose from within failed US metrication initiatives in the 1970's rather than from popularization of geek-speak in the 1990's. That's not what actually happened, but again, what would it matter.
The use of k for 1000 predates the popularization of computers and bytes. In electronics for example, k was being used to represent resistance in 1000 Ohms way back.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:44 PM
 
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It started with people who wanted to appear tech-savvy by flippin' the lingo around. It doesn't really make much sense of course, since 1K = 1,024, not 1,000. Luckily, megs and gigs haven't emigrated so much and are still pretty much stuck in their native land.
This is hilarious... and obviously wrong.

1k is 1000.

1k in used for 1024 in digital calculations because it closely resembles 1000 while being a 2^10 or 10000000000.

kilo, mega, giga, etc. predates computers by centuries.
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Old 06-26-2015, 12:18 AM
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The use of K is. But as I so plainly noted earlier, you can always just pretend that the usage actually arose from within failed US metrication initiatives in the 1970's rather than from popularization of geek-speak in the 1990's. That's not what actually happened, but again, what would it matter.
You know, it's been a while since I've seen someone be so clearly wrong and overly confident in such an amusing way.

Thanks for the laugh.

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Old 06-26-2015, 04:57 AM
 
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G is usually verbal and K is usually written.
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:13 AM
 
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You know, it's been a while since I've seen someone be so clearly wrong and overly confident in such an amusing way.

Thanks for the laugh.

This he actually seems to believe it.
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Old 06-26-2015, 06:08 AM
 
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And you attempting to applying any use k to tech isn't niche? Lulz
I'm explaining how the pop-use of K came into being. It did not come from Greece or from failed US efforts at metrication. It came from what would one day be known as the IT world and particularly from those wanting to appear hip and cool with all the new technology. You can argue against history, but you can't change it.
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Old 06-26-2015, 06:48 AM
 
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I'm explaining how the pop-use of K came into being. It did not come from Greece or from failed US efforts at metrication. It came from what would one day be known as the IT world and particularly from those wanting to appear hip and cool with all the new technology. You can argue against history, but you can't change it.

You don't write history nor are your opinions actual history just because you say they are. What a silly ass thing to argue about in the first place but you certainly take the cake
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Old 06-26-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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I stated the facts in Post #3. The "silly" stuff has come from all these others since.
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