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A new study by a business consulting firm, released today, ranked large cities in the world based on "social and economic conditions, health, education, housing and the environment."
Top cities:
1 Vienna Austria
2 Zurich Switzerland
3 Auckland New Zealand
4 Munich Germany
5 Vancouver Canada
6 Dusseldorf Germany
7 Frankfurt Germany
8 Geneva Switzerland
9 Copenhagen Denmark
28 San Francisco Calif.
Nearly all of the best cities to live in are democratic socialist. The highest ranked city in America is San Francisco -- which of course is arguably America's most liberal city.
The usual magical thinking that we can magically graft this system and the social attitudes that created it onto the corrupt U.S. and have it work. (Oh, we can if we "just" vote for the "right" people). Sigh.
It's not a surprise that San Francisco ranks relatively highly. Only rich people can afford to live there, unless you bought a long time ago or got a rent controlled apartment a long time ago. Of course, you can live on the street like their many homeless do.
We already have some elements of it now with Social Security, Medicare, Obamacare, EITC, and so on. Shifting the U.S. towards a more socialist democracy would likely be gradual and take at least a generation -- nothing magical about that. The surprising popularity of Bernie Sanders shows that more Americans are receptive to democratic socialism than previously believed.
I don't think that's what his success shows, as much as I'd like to see a better system in the US. What it shows is that the youth bloc is powerful, and can influence the outcome of an election, as we saw dramatically in the first Obama election. Youth tends to be idealistic. That's all it proves.
Talk is easy. Getting measures that expand the safety net passed by Congress is not. Getting Congress to vote on raising taxes to pay for an expanded safety net is not. Even when the Dems were in the Presidency AND controlled Congress, they couldn't (did they even try?) roll back the Bush tax cuts and get the economy back on track. Sanders would run into the same obstructionism as Obama did if he won. That's the unfortunate thing. Unless the Dems manage to sweep Congress 2 years later.
a new study by a business consulting firm, released today, ranked large cities in the world based on "social and economic conditions, health, education, housing and the environment."
top cities:
1 vienna austria
2 zurich switzerland
3 auckland new zealand
4 munich germany
5 vancouver canada
6 dusseldorf germany
7 frankfurt germany
8 geneva switzerland
9 copenhagen denmark
28 san francisco calif.
Nearly all of the best cities to live in are democratic socialist. The highest ranked city in america is san francisco -- which of course is arguably america's most liberal city.
We already have some elements of it now with Social Security, Medicare, Obamacare, EITC, and so on.
Yeah, and look at how well those programs are run (other than perhaps, EITC). I know....this is the part where you tell me the programs are well run and I shake my head. Or the part where you tell me if we just elect the right people or spend more money on them, they'll be better run (and I shake my head some more).
Yes, I agree America is getting more socialist. I don't think that's a good thing. I understand people's complaints about capitalism. The problem is we don't have true, free market capitalism in this country. We have Crony Capitalism or Cartel-ism. So when we see the obvious corruption of Crony Capitalism, we want to replace it with Socialism. What people do not (will not) understand is they are just two different methods of centralizing power and control in the hands of a few. Two masks on the same face. Two sides of the same totalitarian coin.
Last edited by mysticaltyger; 02-22-2016 at 10:53 PM..
nirp. Btw how does SF have a high quality of life? No one can afford to buy a SFH.
A SFH in San Francisco hasn't been realistic for decades,given how densely populated it is....but a large % of people can't even afford to rent studio apartments there, let alone own a SFH.
In other words, you want a feudal society. No thanks.
So many americans have the "I've got mine, screw all of you" mentality, so most would most likely be all in favor of Social Darwinism-let the poorer folks just die already!! After all, it's their own fault Those sociopathic types have no problem with a rigged game or slanted system-until it goes against them, then they cry about the unfairness of it all!! Maybe if the U$ was truly capitalistic, things would be fairer, but sadly, it's crony capitalism where the rich make the rules and make sure to take care of their own. Sad really. Reminds me of the lyrics to the song "In the City"- "when you're down that's where you'll stay"
The U$ is pretty far down in terms of social mobility these days, so the rags to riches stories are fewer and fewer, thanks to an already stack decked
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Yeah, and look at how well those programs are run (other than perhaps, EITC). I know....this is the part where you tell me the programs are well run and I shake my head.
We already have passed the point of no return in the US, we live in bureaucratic tyranny.
Pure Socialism and Capitalism are both proven failures, successful countries employ a mix between the 2 to advance the lives of those societies. On the whole, how much of your money you pay in taxes is the relative amount of 'Socialism' you are living under. In the USA, it's 18% and in Norway, it's 55%. Both countries are quite successful using very different models, however, so much of Norway's revenues are based on oil that it's not clear how successful this model would work without such a huge income from oil. Canada is in the middle at around 37% and that might be a better model. For me, I don't think I would be as successful using any other countries model as I have in the USA but I believe we overemphasize material possessions (though we aren't alone in that).
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Those sociopathic types have no problem with a rigged game or slanted system-until it goes against them, then they cry about the unfairness of it all!! Maybe if the U$ was truly capitalistic, things would be fairer, but sadly, it's crony capitalism where the rich make the rules and make sure to take care of their own. Sad really. Reminds me of the lyrics to the song "In the City"- "when you're down that's where you'll stay"
