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Old 04-17-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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If you go somewhere else there will be still be people with just as good knowledge and skills if not better to compete against it is not like there are areas with people with little to no knowledge and skills. Like I said before there are only x amount of higher paying jobs not enough for everyone.
You just don't get it, so I would say you deserve your fate. There are lots of places with good jobs, more jobs than qualified employees. With the internet it has never been easier to look for a job in other parts of the country. Once you find an employer and a job and a salary that fit, then you and employer are the winners. Again, I say, all of your whining about the bad job market gets you nothing. Spend some of that effort looking and you are very likely to succeed. Schools don't seem to teach people how to market themselves and how to look for jobs. That does not mean you cannot learn.


There is a saying about those who help themselves. I can't imagine the hundreds and hundreds of hours I spent in my career looking for jobs. I had to move and find new jobs several times because companies I worked for went out of business, once I was fired and several times I moved for better jobs. Once I was really stuck. Before the era of computers and word processing, I hand typed 200 letters trying to find job leads. BTW, I never got a single lead from that effort, but I did eventually find a great job by other inquiries. I suspect I am just wasting my words. Some people just either don't get it or don't bother to make the efforts needed to find good jobs and advance their careers.
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Old 04-17-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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A lot of people are "whining and moaning" about facts regarding the economy and US economic policy. We've made some huge changes in the last 40 years and they suck economically for the great majority of the population. It isn't personal.
I am suspect I would feel the same way if I lived where you do. You are battling uphill if you want to find good jobs in a little town in the middle of the desert. What are you a hundred miles or so from the nearest small city? Even that is hardly an employment mecca. If you want a quiet lifestyle and plenty of open space, you got it. If you want jobs and a career and future possibilities, you need to move. The jobs are not going to come to you.
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Old 04-17-2016, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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I am suspect I would feel the same way if I lived where you do. You are battling uphill if you want to find good jobs in a little town in the middle of the desert.
Good lord, man! I just got done telling you that it isn't personal. It isn't about me, and it isn't about you, and it isn't about the "great jobs" that always exist somewhere if you have just the right skill. This is about the USA. Look at the stats and see what you find.

BTW, this is the "desert" where I live, and I have no trouble making a good living here or anywhere else:

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Old 04-17-2016, 03:50 PM
 
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I understand you are at a higher elevation and I am sure it is a wonderful place to live. It has a reputation as a great place to retire, very cheap provided the retiree wants to be along way from tertiary medical care and cultural activities. Still if that is where you want to live, you should not complain about jobs. If you want good paying jobs, career choices and opportunities, the closest I would move would be Albuquerque. Otherwise is there much of anything there except food service and resort type jobs?
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Old 04-17-2016, 04:07 PM
 
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The media is very good at manipulating public opinion. I don't know what is going on in that realm since I ignore it as much as possible, but since there is a major election coming up I expect that gloom and doom is selling big at the moment.
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Can you cite me similar examples of politicians having such success with the Trump/Sanders lines of reasoning in economically good times?
Politicians having success doesn't happen in a vacuum, so it isn't logically sound to assume a direct correlation with a single source.

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Bernie actually has a number of recent analogues - Jesse Jackson '84/88, Bill Bradley '00, John Edwards '04/08 had messages in the same wheelhouse. Universal health care, income inequality, etc... None of them got off the runway.
John Edwards never got off the runway? He was second to Kerry in 2004 and was brought on as the VP candidate.
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Still if that is where you want to live, you should not complain about jobs.
Are you truly incapable of understanding that this isn't about me? I've never complained about jobs here, and I've never even tried to get one. Rather I hire people to work for me. The local economy seems to be doing fine (mine certainly is) but that is also irrelevant on an economics forum.

But since you asked, most people who make good money here work for themselves or own a business. The main industry is tourism. People come to ski, hike, camp, horse ride, bike ride, play golf, go to the horse races or casino, etc. Many have 2nd homes here. It's got one of the best climates in the US. The 3 contiguous towns have a population of >10k, and there is a fine enough hospital.
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Old 04-17-2016, 07:59 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Okay I'll bite, how do the profits of a company not belong to the owners? Can you point me in the direction of the law/statute that supports this?



I've never claimed someone making more is stealing, so why would I go tell someone this?

You are the one claiming someone who owns a company is stealing if they don't give raises to employees when profits go up.
Because the owner is not the only one who makes the profits possible. If an owner takes 98% of the profits would you say they owned and deserved all those profits? It is stealing if you are taking money from people who helped you earn that money.
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Old 04-17-2016, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Atlantis
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It is also possible to have an increase in money when playing the game Monopoly.


It's fun, at least for a while.


A few more trips around the board though can change everything.
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Old 04-17-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I can list a whole bunch of well paying jobs that are going to be in very high demand over the next several decades. Those on this forum who love to whine and moan could do better if they spent even a little time looking forward to the good jobs and careers that are opening. I know their are and will be a lot of jobs available for those with the right skills. Contrary to some beliefs many of those jobs do not require some sort of special intellect or an IQ that is off the charts. I do believe it is true that many of the good jobs in the future will require a college education. We have moved a long way in that direction already.


Companies pay salaries based largely on supply and demand. Companies do not just arbitrarily decide to pay their employees more or less based on profits although some do have incentive programs. I fail to see how someone is exploited when they are offered a job. If the job is underpaid, then don't take it. If the prospective employee cannot find something better, then they are clearly not being underpaid or exploited.
How would you know which well paying jobs will be demand in a couple of years? Maybe you could predict them but that is a guess at beast. Again even if there is there is not gonna be enough for everybody. Sounds like you are making stuff up.
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