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Old 11-30-2017, 09:30 AM
 
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The skittish will move too soon, and the stalwart will move too late. Or not at all, which is often the best course of action to follow.
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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The problem is that stocks are not necessarily correlated to the underlying economy. As long as equities are receiving liquidity injections from central banks, I suppose this could go on forever until countries are so riddled in debt that they have no choice to turn off the spigot.

What will crash the underlying economy in my opinion is an impending oil shock.
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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The problem is that stocks are not necessarily correlated to the underlying economy. As long as equities are receiving liquidity injections from central banks, I suppose this could go on forever until countries are so riddled in debt that they have no choice to turn off the spigot.

What will crash the underlying economy in my opinion is an impending oil shock.
If this is the case, and I expect tax reform will goose the markets even more... then we're looking at a situation like the 1920s.
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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If this is the case, and I expect tax reform will goose the markets even more... then we're looking at a situation like the 1920s.
I think it will be very bad. Given the involvement of central banks, perhaps, there is a more sinister plan to consolidate all formerly sovereign banking functions into one global entity.

That way, a limited number of powerful people will control global finances, rendering countries impotent.
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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I think it will be very bad. Given the involvement of central banks, perhaps, there is a more sinister plan to consolidate all formerly sovereign banking functions into one global entity.

That way, a limited number of powerful people will control global finances, rendering countries impotent.
Is this about lizards again?
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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Why it is that this forum continues to attract those who know little, are always predicting disaster and believe in behind the scenes conspiracies? Personally I come here to try to learn and to contribute when I can. Others just seem to want to vent opinions. Anyway I guess I vented and now will move on to different forums where I might learn something.
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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Is this about lizards again?
Why are you disrespecting my opinion? What did I say to you?

When did anybody mention lizards. It's called critical thinking.

Are you saying that central banks are not investing in equities?
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:55 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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It doesn't much matter. Once the zombie apocalypse happens the market will crash and then be obsolete. And gold? Forget about it. You can't eat gold. I'm stocking up on guns and canned goods. Best investment ever!
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Old 11-30-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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Why are you disrespecting my opinion? What did I say to you?

When did anybody mention lizards. It's called critical thinking.

Are you saying that central banks are not investing in equities?
I'm saying that "a sinister plan to ... consolidate into one global entity" is a rather hyperbolic worry to espouse. Far more ominous is nationalist movements such a Brexit, where untutored popular opinion locks elected-officials into making dumb decisions, with adverse economic consequences.

I still have nightmares of what might have happened, had there NOT been a bailout in 2008 and 2009.
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Old 11-30-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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That way, a limited number of powerful people will control global finances, rendering countries impotent.
This is the first and last page of the corporate playbook. They've already outgrown state and local governments. The largest national governments are all that can currently oppose them.

And yes, the various financial bailouts were of critical importance.
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