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Old 01-07-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Do not give welfare away for free. Link welfare payments to a honest days work for an honest days pay. With the money we spend on welfare we could get infrastructure projects completed in this country.
"It found that 54 percent of the families who turn to pantries to help put food on the table have at least one member working, and that rate was much higher, 71 percent, for households with kids. 52 percent of fast-food workers are enrolled in, or have their families enrolled in, one or more public assistance programs such as SNAP, Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program."
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...y-already-work

Only adults with children can receive TANF, if they have children under 6 single parents are required to work 20 hours a week, in a household with two parents the work requirement is 35 hours.
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-b...nf-experience/

The TANF cash grant in Mississippi for a family of 3 is $170 a month. So under your "plan" of an honest days work for an honest days pay, they would only be required to work at minimum wage for 23 hours a month or a little less than 3 days. The law currently requires work participation for 20 hours a week.
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Do not give welfare away for free. Link welfare payments to a honest days work for an honest days pay. With the money we spend on welfare we could get infrastructure projects completed in this country.
Most people getting benefits already have a job, and the ones who don't are children and single mothers raising kids.

"The federal government spends just $212 billion per year on what we could reasonably call “welfare.” (Even then, the poor have to enter the institution of waged labor to get the earned income tax credit.) And there have been numerous studies showing that these programs, especially things like food stamps, are both very efficient and effective at reducing poverty."
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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The average American homeowner has a gargantuan sense of entitlement.
But you don't own a home......
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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I suggest you become a homeowner ASAP.

For years I've wanted to own and live in a tiny house but homeowners in this country don't want poorer people in their neighborhoods.

IOW, no town is big enough for middle class and poor homebuyers.
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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For years I've wanted to own and live in a tiny house but homeowners in this country don't want poorer people in their neighborhoods.
Get real! You want to live in super expensive urban area and pay peanuts for the privilege. Ain't happening. Shouldn't happen in a sane world.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:05 PM
 
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But you don't own a home......

Correct. The homeowner gargantuan sense of entitlement includes the right to use government to prevent poor people from buying homes in the neighborhood.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:08 PM
 
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Get real! You want to live in super expensive urban area and pay peanuts for the privilege. Ain't happening. Shouldn't happen in a sane world.

Not really, Tiny houses on tiny lots can be affordable. Big houses on large lots are designed and intended to be affordable only at average or greater incomes..
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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Not really, Tiny houses on tiny lots can be affordable. Big houses on large lots are designed and intended to be affordable only at average or greater incomes..
We all know that's not your core problem. The real problem is you won't address your core problems. "Minimum wage worker who's denied owning a tiny house" is a part of your identity that you are unwilling to shake off.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:14 AM
 
Location: USA
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For years I've wanted to own and live in a tiny house but homeowners in this country don't want poorer people in their neighborhoods.

IOW, no town is big enough for middle class and poor homebuyers.
There are plenty of places round the country where you can buy an affordable house. It's just not going to be in a trendy big city!

I don't know a time when minimum wage workers were homeowners, heck, most can't even afford to rent. Minimum wage was never intended to provide a comfortable lifestyle.
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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Correct. The homeowner gargantuan sense of entitlement includes the right to use government to prevent poor people from buying homes in the neighborhood.
That was sarcasm, so I'll be clearer. You're asserting that a homeowner has a sense of entitlement, yet you want to own a home but have a) failed to save for a down payment, b) failed to increase your income so that you could save for that down payment, c) failed to increase your income to pay for a house payment, d) improved your earning potential to anything other than living in a room in a flophouse, e) called for changing the rules of an established area to fit YOUR needs, ignoring the needs of anyone else in that neighborhood, and f) demanded to live in the area that YOU have deemed appropriate for yourself, in spite of not being able to afford that neighborhood.

"E" & "F" point out your incredible sense of entitlement.

It also points out the mentality of many on the welfare system. They demand caviar on a McDonalds budget.
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