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The movie about getting out of poverty with will Smith? I never liked it that much...
Oh, you mean life, liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Yes these are all things me and Franklin support unlike the modern day capitalist who only care about wages and corporate investment.
success and the wealth that comes with it is the pursuit of happiness for many people (much toyour chagrin I know). In any event, that is an unalienable right.
When you privileged yourself with the right to rent and control labor, and access to land, you are in support of corporate power.
There was a reason Jefferson was against credit loans, Madison was against rent income, Franklin was against excess property control, and Lincoln was against private capital controlling the mills laborers worked at.
All these great Americans stand against you. How does that make you feel?
All of them would have hung Karl Marx, how does that make you feel?
success and the wealth that comes with it is the pursuit of happiness for many people (much toyour chagrin I know). In any event, that is an unalienable right.
Benjamin Franklin and others didn't see that right as dominating the poor farmers and peasants, they saw it as the right to pursue your own life, and build what you will.
That is different from gathering property, controlling rent, lending credit to the needy, and controlling the capital laborers need to live.
That Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, Washington, and Even Lincoln afterwards:
Benjamin Franklin and others didn't see that right as dominating the poor farmers and peasants, they saw it as the right to pursue your own life, and build what you will.
That is different from gathering property, controlling rent, lending credit to the needy, and controlling the capital laborers need to live.
That Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, Washington, and Even Lincoln afterwards:
those quotes don't contradict my statement, try again
I can keep going:
"Jefferson distrusted government banks and opposed public borrowing, which he thought created long-term debt, bred monopolies, and invited dangerous speculation as opposed to productive labor.[301] In one letter to Madison, he argued each generation should curtail all debt within 19 years, and not impose a long-term debt on subsequent generations.[302]
In 1791, President Washington asked Jefferson, then Secretary of State, and Hamilton, the Secretary of the Treasury, if the Congress had the authority to create a national bank. While Hamilton believed Congress had the authority, Jefferson and Madison thought a national bank would ignore the needs of individuals and farmers, and would violate the Tenth Amendment by assuming powers not granted to the federal government by the states.[303] " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson
The point is many of the American patriots you consider yourself in line with did not view the Pursuit if happiness with the pursuit of power.
Increasing your wealth, land, and personal property is increasing your control over the economy. That is what corporate executives and banking mangers do today, which is not in line with the country's original philosophy.
"Jefferson distrusted government banks and opposed public borrowing, which he thought created long-term debt, bred monopolies, and invited dangerous speculation as opposed to productive labor.[301] In one letter to Madison, he argued each generation should curtail all debt within 19 years, and not impose a long-term debt on subsequent generations.[302]
In 1791, President Washington asked Jefferson, then Secretary of State, and Hamilton, the Secretary of the Treasury, if the Congress had the authority to create a national bank. While Hamilton believed Congress had the authority, Jefferson and Madison thought a national bank would ignore the needs of individuals and farmers, and would violate the Tenth Amendment by assuming powers not granted to the federal government by the states.[303] " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson
The point is many of the American patriots you consider yourself in line with did not view the Pursuit if happiness with the pursuit of power.
Increasing your wealth, land, and personal property is increasing your control over the economy. That is what corporate executives and banking mangers do today, which is not in line with the country's original philosophy.
absolutely none of that contradicts reading the pursuit of happiness as being the pursuit of success and the wealth that comes with it. It may argue for government power (which you hate but are seeming to now embrace) to regulate it, but it doesn't detract from it being a basic human right.
absolutely none of that contradicts reading the pursuit of happiness as being the pursuit of success and the wealth that comes with it. It may argue for government power (which you hate but are seeming to now embrace) to regulate it, but it doesn't detract from it being a basic human right.
No, you misunderstand, that was a different time.
Making wealth is fine, something I pointed out. There is a difference between making wealthy, building a nicer house, getting fine additions to your living standard, and controlling the happiness of others through rent, debt, ownership of production, abuse of labor, and corporate power.
Is that happiness to you? It wasn't for Jefferson.
Making wealth is fine, something I pointed out. There is a difference between making wealthy, building a nicer house, getting fine additions to your living standard, and controlling the happiness of others through rent, debt, ownership of production, abuse of labor, and corporate power.
Is that happiness to you? It wasn't for Jefferson.
Nope. Government regulations don't stop a corporate economy. Unless you want to nationalize the system or overhaul regulations, we still live in a corporate system.
That means production is still controlled, rent and credit still keep the lower class on a tight leash, and wages are the only way to stay out of poverty (meaning self-sustaining practices are not considered 'efficient' enough).
And as these corporate powers require regulations to keep them from crashing the economy, but that is not what Franklin, Jefferson, or Lincoln were talking about.
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