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Old 10-10-2011, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Well the school day starts really early.... Which taht in itself is a real drudge, even for the parents.

Now speaking from an adult who obviously went to school, besides reading writing and basic math, everything is totally unnecessary, and you will never need it.
Algebra and triginometry, since I have graduated HS in 1979, I have never once in all my years of working used or needed it.
Chemistry and Biology were also a waste of my time since i was not going into the medical profession.

Children dont like to read???, well maybe it the schools started to give more updated books than the same old books they have been reading since the stone age, maybe then children will enjoy reading.
Silas marner, Johnny Tremain, In cold blood, Romeo & Juliet....these books are so done and tired, they need to be put to rest already.

lets also not forget gym class, not every child is good at nor enjoys sprts. Gym should be an elective, if you want it, you can take it. I personall find gym class a waste of my taxpayers money.


Social Studies, while interesting, because I like history, also has never helped me in my career. iam an accountant , so George Washingtons crossing has done diddly squat for me.


there are so many things that schools should be teaching, like how to balance a check book, learn how to inverst money to make more money....and so on.

 
Old 10-10-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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I could see if they were being bullied or something, but why do some kids just hate going to school for no apparent reason? Is it because they're forced to go? Because they have to wake up early? Other reasons?
Because it involves effort for most of them. School=academics. Academics=painstaking effort for most kids (minus those truly gifted ones who are waaay few-er than our society wants to believe).

Effort hurts and is unpleasant.
Kids can't yet make the association between "effort/pain now - pay-off later". They just hate the effort.
Case closed.
 
Old 10-10-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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From my experience I hated school due to the social factor. I grew up in a pretty dysfunctional household and had a hard time relating to susie popular who didn't have a care in the world with the maturity level of a 10 yr old. I always felt older than everyone else. While some worried about if the quarterback would give them the time of day, I worried whether or not the lights would be on when I got home. I also went to a poorly funded school district in a very blue collar area. Most kids didn't go on to college so the counselors focused their attention on the honor roll kids. Kind of like survival of the fittest.
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I am sorry you had that experience and I know many people feel the way you do but I did want to point out that perception may not have been reality.

We recently had that group Challenge Day (from the "If you really knew me" show on MTV) come to our very suburban upper middle class school and I was shocked about some of the things we found out about our students. Things like the fact the vast majority of them were directly effected by substance abuse, domestic violence, etc. The majority of those kids who stood up for those group exercises were the "susie popular" types. Very eye opening.
 
Old 10-10-2011, 03:09 PM
 
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Now speaking from an adult who obviously went to school, besides reading writing and basic math, everything is totally unnecessary, and you will never need it.
Algebra and triginometry, since I have graduated HS in 1979, I have never once in all my years of working used or needed it.
Chemistry and Biology were also a waste of my time since i was not going into the medical profession.
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lets also not forget gym class, not every child is good at nor enjoys sprts. Gym should be an elective, if you want it, you can take it. I personall find gym class a waste of my taxpayers money.


Social Studies, while interesting, because I like history, also has never helped me in my career. iam an accountant , so George Washingtons crossing has done diddly squat for me.
You're assuming that to be worthwhile, learning must do one (or both) of two things:
1. help you make money
2. entertain you

Many kids hate school because they share these beliefs. However, they are mistaken. It's understandable though, because they're kids, and that's why they don't get to make all the decisions.

Understanding history makes you a more informed citizen, hopefully better able to make voting choices. Knowing about the people who got your country started - and those who made sacrifices for your country, or your religion, or whatever - also makes people more grateful and less selfish. If you are a U.S. citizen or resident, then yes, G.W. did something for you. You just haven't gotten the connection.

Other kids hate school because it is not pleasant to have your day completely planned out for you: go here, do this, now go there, do that, now go home and do more of this and that. (That's also why many people hate their jobs.)
 
Old 10-12-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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Bwahahahaha!
My forehead hurts from so many self-slaps.
 
Old 10-12-2011, 08:41 AM
 
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Some of the responses are very scary.
The Scary Oscar goes to the dude who was lamenting that schools don't limit teaching to concrete money making, such as how to become a Wall Street star.

While this is certainly an extreme view, the attitude towards learning in this country does have this type of flavor pretty much everywhere.

Anything that doesn't lead to money making is not worth knowing. It is because of grotesque attitudes like these that I often dream of being able to educate my kids in schools elsewhere.
 
Old 10-12-2011, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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We recently had that group Challenge Day (from the "If you really knew me" show on MTV) come to our very suburban upper middle class school and I was shocked about some of the things we found out about our students. Things like the fact the vast majority of them were directly effected by substance abuse, domestic violence, etc. The majority of those kids who stood up for those group exercises were the "susie popular" types. Very eye opening.
Isn't that a fantastic program? I am fortunate enough to have been involved in a few of them (assisting the facilitators), and I'll agree, you see a side of the kids you would never ordinarily know about. Some of their stories are heartbreaking. I think teens and every parent of teens should at least watch the show.
 
Old 10-17-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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You're assuming that to be worthwhile, learning must do one (or both) of two things:
1. help you make money
2. entertain you

Many kids hate school because they share these beliefs. However, they are mistaken. It's understandable though, because they're kids, and that's why they don't get to make all the decisions.

Understanding history makes you a more informed citizen, hopefully better able to make voting choices. Knowing about the people who got your country started - and those who made sacrifices for your country, or your religion, or whatever - also makes people more grateful and less selfish. If you are a U.S. citizen or resident, then yes, G.W. did something for you. You just haven't gotten the connection.

Other kids hate school because it is not pleasant to have your day completely planned out for you: go here, do this, now go there, do that, now go home and do more of this and that. (That's also why many people hate their jobs.)
What about Chemistry and Biology? I believe the raw basics are benfeicial but what do you recall about the chemical properties of FeO?
 
Old 10-18-2011, 08:01 AM
 
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What about Chemistry and Biology? I believe the raw basics are benfeicial but what do you recall about the chemical properties of FeO?

Let me make the question a little more general: "Why is it important to learn science?"

1. Very few high school students know what their careers will be. Not teaching the kids science (unless they feel like studying it) limits their options before they are mature enough to make that choice for themselves.

2. Science and pseudo-science get mixed into politics. It's very strange, but people's beliefs about science seem to follow their political leanings. "Science" becomes more a matter of faith. Congressman X says ABC, and I like Congressman X, so ABC must be true.

3. Lack of science knowledge promotes superstition (and I don't mean religion). We have a friend who is convinced that the advances of the past 110 years are proof that we have been assisted by aliens (the non-human kind).

4. An understanding of science helps people make better choices regarding their physical health. It also helps them take better care of their pets and livestock.
 
Old 10-18-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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My first grader told me he hates school because "School wastes your time so you can't learn anything." I wish he were mistaken, but he's not. They have him "reviewing" kindergarten, which was spent reviewing things he had learned by the time he was 3 1/2. While not all of the eight hours a day he spends traveling and at school would otherwise have been used learning academic subjects, some of it would be. We're less than two months into the school year and he's already forgotten things he figured out over the summer. I hated school for the same reason, so I've got a parent-teacher conference scheduled to talk about it on Monday. Hopefully I can make school bearable for my child.
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