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You would have to ask his teacher that. The point is that parents are so uninvolved in their children's schooling, they couldn't be bothered to have the kids write something simple down for extra points.
Something like that does not always reflect uninvolved parents. My children have been taught to take responsibility for their own homework. It's not my homework. I have 2 bachelors degrees and a masters degree and my parents never did my homework for me.
I peek at my kids grades. I ask them what they are doing in school and what they are learning. I will proofread papers, offer an opinion on a project, buy supplies, help with manual details (like gluing or cutting), drill them for tests if asked, etc. But I don't do homework. I know there is a big AP Chemistry test tomorrow. But I didn't study for it because it's not my test.
If my kids can't do their homework I assess what the problem is and take appropriate action. But I still don't do their work for them. And that would include writing down the score of a baseball game. But that doesn't make me an uninvolved parent.
I would never denegrate a program as a whole or a child as an individual to make some stupid point on a forum!
I don't think anyone is denigrating an entire program.
I don't think you need to resort to calling someone's point stupid. Refute it.
I am just trying to point out to you that the excessive workload your daughter is carrying has its downside. That downside is that she can't do anything else.
Moderator-I believe this does relate to the topic of this thread (excessive homework).
As a parent I wouldn't go out of my way to remind my kid to write down the score of a sports game. That doesn't make me an uncaring or uninvolved parent. I think older kids are certainly capable of handling their own homework. And for any age, the idea of bonus points for something like that is, frankly, stupid. I suppose the idea is to see if kids are paying attention (perhaps?) but it's pointless, not at all related to the subject, and devalues actual grades. I think I'd be tempted not to write it down as a form of protest against the inanity of the whole thing. (or be sorely tempted to write that I didn't have the time to watch the baseball game because I was DOING HOMEWORK, although admittedly I never would have had the nerve to do something smart-alecky like that). Still, I do think that if homework is assigned it should be actually meaningful, and all involved (parents, students, teachers) ideally all believe it to be worthwhile and thoughtful, not just assigned as a form of homework for homework's sake.
If you ask me, most American grade and high schools are way too easy and lack discipline. And grown-ups on internet forums belly-aching about homework and getting all Rush Limbaugh on the concept of schools expecting at least some form of achievement from students sure doesn't help.
As a parent I wouldn't go out of my way to remind my kid to write down the score of a sports game. That doesn't make me an uncaring or uninvolved parent. I think older kids are certainly capable of handling their own homework. And for any age, the idea of bonus points for something like that is, frankly, stupid. I suppose the idea is to see if kids are paying attention (perhaps?) but it's pointless, not at all related to the subject, and devalues actual grades. I think I'd be tempted not to write it down as a form of protest against the inanity of the whole thing. (or be sorely tempted to write that I didn't have the time to watch the baseball game because I was DOING HOMEWORK, although admittedly I never would have had the nerve to do something smart-alecky like that). Still, I do think that if homework is assigned it should be actually meaningful, and all involved (parents, students, teachers) ideally all believe it to be worthwhile and thoughtful, not just assigned as a form of homework for homework's sake.
Yep. When I was in high school I just didn't do the ridiculous things that were assigned bonus points or extra credit if they had no relevance to the subject matter. First of all, I got A's without the extra credit. Second of all, I have a fundamental problem with extra credit. Third of all, if there is going to be extra credit given, it should be related to the subject at hand.
Something like that does not always reflect uninvolved parents. My children have been taught to take responsibility for their own homework. It's not my homework. I have 2 bachelors degrees and a masters degree and my parents never did my homework for me.
I peek at my kids grades. I ask them what they are doing in school and what they are learning. I will proofread papers, offer an opinion on a project, buy supplies, help with manual details (like gluing or cutting), drill them for tests if asked, etc. But I don't do homework. I know there is a big AP Chemistry test tomorrow. But I didn't study for it because it's not my test.
If my kids can't do their homework I assess what the problem is and take appropriate action. But I still don't do their work for them. And that would include writing down the score of a baseball game. But that doesn't make me an uninvolved parent.
I don't do my son's homework either. However, I do check to see what he has to do and I do compel him to do it.
I would help my son study for a test. I don't see what is wrong with that. It's not the same thing as doing his homework for him.
My son wrote down the score himself after I showed him how to look it up. That is my definition of involved parenting.
As a parent I wouldn't go out of my way to remind my kid to write down the score of a sports game. That doesn't make me an uncaring or uninvolved parent. I think older kids are certainly capable of handling their own homework. And for any age, the idea of bonus points for something like that is, frankly, stupid. I suppose the idea is to see if kids are paying attention (perhaps?) but it's pointless, not at all related to the subject, and devalues actual grades. I think I'd be tempted not to write it down as a form of protest against the inanity of the whole thing. (or be sorely tempted to write that I didn't have the time to watch the baseball game because I was DOING HOMEWORK, although admittedly I never would have had the nerve to do something smart-alecky like that). Still, I do think that if homework is assigned it should be actually meaningful, and all involved (parents, students, teachers) ideally all believe it to be worthwhile and thoughtful, not just assigned as a form of homework for homework's sake.
It doesn't devalue homework and participation grades. It was an exercise to get the kids to pay attention because so many of them do not do their homework. It's a really sad state affairs.
You didn't have to watch the game. Take 2 seconds to look online or in your paper for the score.
I don't do my son's homework either. However, I do check to see what he has to do and I do compel him to do it.
I would help my son study for a test. I don't see what is wrong with that. It's not the same thing as doing his homework for him.
My son wrote down the score himself after I showed him how to look it up. That is my definition of involved parenting.
IMO one of the greatest gifts a parent can give a child is the confidence to be able to do things himself and to learn to ask for help if needed. That's my definition of involved parenting.
If my son asked me to help him study for a test I would help. But if he doesn't think he needs my help I don't impose it upon him. He knows if he needs my help.
It doesn't devalue homework and participation grades. It was an exercise to get the kids to pay attention because so many of them do not do their homework. It's a really sad state affairs.
You didn't have to watch the game. Take 2 seconds to look online or in your paper for the score.
What is the educational value in that?
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