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Old 07-17-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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Of course you can be intelligent without formal education. The ability to learn, understand, and to reason has nothing to do with schooling. People of low intelligence have trouble learning, understanding, and reasoning.



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Old 07-17-2018, 02:21 PM
 
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It's a no-brainer. sorry, couldn't resist
That's delightfully terrible!
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Old 07-17-2018, 03:53 PM
 
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It depends how you validate your equivalency of a non-college grad to a college grad.

Do you ask college grads, or do you ask your bank account?

I'm not here to be the smartest, or most noble. I'm here to make money and help others.
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:28 PM
 
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One needs some amount of formal education to be literate, do basic math, and other common tasks.
Generally I agree, however some folks are known to be home schooled and/or have private tutors.
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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Generally I agree, however some folks are known to be home schooled and/or have private tutors.
That still falls under the blanket of "formal education," as long as the instructor/parent is following state standards... it's just not a "traditional" or classroom education.
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:37 PM
 
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Generally I agree, however some folks are known to be home schooled and/or have private tutors.
My grandmother--a farm wife in 1925 with an eighth-grade education--taught all six of her children to read and do basic arithmetic before they were six years old. They all went on to college, most becoming teachers, two of them earning PhDs.

And then she taught me reading and basic arithmetic before I started school.

I didn't know any of that until I was an adult--to me, she had always been the very canny financial manager of the family, keeping books for my grandfather's business.

A matter of wringing all she could out of that eight years of school.
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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I never said it was a typo. I implied that the statement still stands regardless if its billions or millions.

The point is there are many highly intelligent people out there with no formal education.

Your formal education clearly failed to teach you that, mine didn’t.
And your point is off by three orders of magnitude. That’s a factor of a thousand. One would think that someone bemoaning how intelligent people are without an education would be somewhat chagrined to make such a mistake. Apparently that is my mistake.
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:13 PM
 
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Frankly I’m surprised that so many that self-identify as intelligent and highly educated have been roped into this circular argument for 10 pages and counting.

I take it back; i’m not.
It is also painfully evident no one is working on a single, same definition of formal education. I am guilty as there rest presuming a formal education to specifically refer to a college education.
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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My grandmother--a farm wife in 1925 with an eighth-grade education--taught all six of her children to read and do basic arithmetic before they were six years old. They all went on to college, most becoming teachers, two of them earning PhDs.

And then she taught me reading and basic arithmetic before I started school.

I didn't know any of that until I was an adult--to me, she had always been the very canny financial manager of the family, keeping books for my grandfather's business.

A matter of wringing all she could out of that eight years of school.
Yep. My father only went up to the sixth grade in education, but he was the one who taught me both reading and math at a very young age. Because of him and his early teachings, I was always ahead. I became the first in the family to graduate college.

Speaking to him, you would never know that he had so little education. He spoke intelligently and with a vocabulary as if he was further educated. Other than the Bible and newspapers, he didn’t do much other reading. He listened to AM talk radio instead of music stations. He had a good mind for business, understood basic economics, and was very observant politically. He wasn’t perfect, but definitely more intelligent than his education would dictate.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:34 PM
 
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Autodidact [aw-toh-dahy-dakt]

(noun) 1. a person who has learned a subject without the benefit of a teacher or formal education; a self-taught person.

If you have ever taught yourself anything, you are an autodidact in that subject.

Some people are autodidacts in general, having taught themselves enough to encompass a broad education.

5 Myths About Being an Autodidact – Etale – Education, Innovation, Experimentation
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