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Old 08-30-2011, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Bill Keller, the executive editor at the New York Times, thinks we really need to dig deep, and confront all the presidential candidates about their Christian faith. Fair enough, we would not want some nut job who blames white Americans for creating AIDS and cocaine to kill black people, thinks god wants him to continue the Crusades, or thinks the bible contains secret code language that tells him where to drop the nukes.

Where was Keller's curiosity back in 2008, concerning 0bama and the church he spent twenty years in?

This year’s Republican primary season offers us an important opportunity to confront our scruples about the privacy of faith in public life — and to get over them. We have an unusually large number of candidates, including putative front-runners, who belong to churches that are mysterious or suspect to many Americans. Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are Mormons, a faith that many conservative Christians have been taught is a “cult” and that many others think is just weird. (Huntsman says he is not “overly religious.”) Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann are both affiliated with fervid subsets of evangelical Christianity — and Rick Santorum comes out of the most conservative wing of Catholicism — which has raised concerns about their respect for the separation of church and state, not to mention the separation of fact and fiction
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/28/ma...aith.html?_r=1
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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Perry, Santorum, and Bachmann are all making religion a central issue in their campaigns. Obama didn't.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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Perry, Santorum, and Bachmann are all making religion a central issue in their campaigns. Obama didn't.
But he did sit in a racist church for 20 years. He's either an idiot or a liar.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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But he did sit in a racist church for 20 years. He's either an idiot or a liar.
And Perry and Bachmann are far more racist than Obama, Clinton, and Reagan.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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Good, the NYT can finally come clean about Obama being a Muslim.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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It sure would be different to have a president that doesn't believe in fairy tales. But most Americans believe in fairy tales (instead of reality) so America will never have one.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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But he did sit in a racist church for 20 years. He's either an idiot or a liar.
I've been to Hindu Temples, Churches, Mosques, Gurudwaras, Buddhist Temples, Jain Temples and Synagogues (and hoping to add a Bahai Temple to the repertoire soon). Try guessing my religion based on that and my arguments in these forums.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Perry, Santorum, and Bachmann are all making religion a central issue in their campaigns. Obama didn't.
Nonsense, it is he media who is making their religion a central issue. Reminds me of Kennedy.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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I really wish religion weren't an issue in politics, and that politicians wouldn't make it an issue. Just sayin'
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Nonsense, it is he media who is making their religion a central issue. Reminds me of Kennedy.
So these candidates are not talking religion but media is making it up? Is Ron Paul also a victim of that issue?

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I really wish religion weren't an issue in politics, and that politicians wouldn't make it an issue. Just sayin'
Religion: Probably the easiest tool to a (politician's) cause. People who've submitted self to a lifetime of irrationality make for great voters. Such wonders require a majority, however (for that reason, you won't see a Mullah running around on that ground here in America).
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