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Old 11-07-2011, 03:54 PM
 
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Wouldnt your "lavish paying jobs on the taxpayer dime" also apply to union employees, or is it only the pay of the non-union employees you think which come at a cost to the taxpayers?
These teachers make national average wages at best, they are far from lavish jobs,..
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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These teachers make national average wages at best, they are far from lavish jobs,..
But thats not what you just said.
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You've got that backwards, it's the fat cat fascist right wing tea baggers that are destroying communities by giving lavish paying jobs on taxpayer dime and handouts to their corporate cronies, while trying to destroy hard working middle class families to pay for it,..
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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"Voters in Ohio are poised to vote no on a referendum on Gov. John Kasich’s (R) anti-union bill, according to a new poll.
Public Policy Polling (PPP) found that 59 percent of voters oppose SB 5, while just 36 percent plan to approve it during Tuesday’s election."

also because of the governor's attack on the middle class:

"Gov. Kasich’s own approval numbers have tanked since he has signed the bill. He was elected by a 55-37 margin over former Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland, but now only 33 percent of voters approve of the job he’s doing, making him one of the most disliked governors in the nation."

Looks like another win for the middle class over the fascist right

Poll: Ohio anti-union bill headed for defeat | The Raw Story
I'll be voting to approve it.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Amazingly they will have poor white trash voting against union/worker rights, they likely are also in favor of corporate welfare.

This is why the Dumbing Down of America is calculated and no accident. I hope the feeling in Ohio matches the disgust with the union busting Governor of Wisconsin.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:09 PM
 
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But thats not what you just said.

Sure it is. I stated the union employees the right wing goons are trying to destroy only make at best national average wages. The right are trying to destroy them while at the same time give lavish government position to their cronies.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Sure it is. I stated the issue isn't union employees the right wing goons are trying to destroy as they only make at best national average wages. They are trying to destroy them while at the same time give lavish government position to their cronies.
Oh I see, you rather have fat cat union bosses getting and giving the lavish gov. positions to each other? Now I understand.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:12 PM
 
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Sure it is. I stated the union employees the right wing goons are trying to destroy only make at best national average wages. The right are trying to destroy them while at the same time give lavish government position to their cronies.
Nothing in this bill would reduce their wages. Why dont you educate yourself before you continue keying.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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Amazingly they will have poor white trash voting against union/worker rights, they likely are also in favor of corporate welfare.

This is why the Dumbing Down of America is calculated and no accident. I hope the feeling in Ohio matches the disgust with the union busting Governor of Wisconsin.
Fox, the Koch's and the tea party have done a hell of a job wrangling the "useful idiots", that's for sure.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:19 PM
 
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Fox, the Koch's and the tea party have done a hell of a job wrangling the "useful idiots", that's for sure.
Or more likely people just getting sick and tired of paying ridiculous taxes to support deficits and excess spending on things government shouldnt be involved in.

You seem to think that money comes from the air that we breath and doesnt need to come out of the publics pocket.
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:14 PM
 
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"Voters in Ohio are poised to vote no on a referendum on Gov. John Kasich’s (R) anti-union bill, according to a new poll.
Public Policy Polling (PPP) found that 59 percent of voters oppose SB 5, while just 36 percent plan to approve it during Tuesday’s election."

also because of the governor's attack on the middle class:

"Gov. Kasich’s own approval numbers have tanked since he has signed the bill. He was elected by a 55-37 margin over former Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland, but now only 33 percent of voters approve of the job he’s doing, making him one of the most disliked governors in the nation."

Looks like another win for the middle class over the fascist right

Poll: Ohio anti-union bill headed for defeat | The Raw Story
Do you have any historical info on how many time the PPP has been right and wrong?
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