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Old 02-06-2012, 12:28 AM
 
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Good news for Obama: poll was conducted from Wed to Sat, which means it only partially reflects the 8.3% drop in unemployment.

Even better news: Obama beats the 56% to 37% when it comes to "protecting the middle class."

The best news: The flip-flopping didn't get any bounce from his primary wins. At this point, Madame Romney should be at least 20 points ahead of Obama in the national polls due to his "business experience". And Obama hasn't even begun campaigning yet!

Obama holds edge over Romney in general election matchup, poll finds - The Washington Post

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Old 02-06-2012, 12:54 AM
 
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Even if Romney did win the popular vote, he's going to have a difficult time getting 270 electoral votes. This situation is only going to get worse for the GOP as time goes on unless they can somehow attract more Latino/Hispanic voters.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:12 AM
 
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Good news for Obama: poll was conducted from Wed to Sat, which means it only partially reflects the 8.3% drop in unemployment.

Even better news: Obama beats the 56% to 37% when it comes to "protecting the middle class."

The best news: The flip-flopping didn't get any bounce from his primary wins. At this point, Madame Romney should be at least 20 points ahead of Obama in the national polls due to his "business experience". And Obama hasn't even begun campaigning yet!

Obama holds edge over Romney in general election matchup, poll finds - The Washington Post
The Romney/Obama head to head polling has been all over the place forever. The only thing that is consistent is that neither man seems to have a huge advantage over the other. Romney beats Obama sometimes. Obama beats Romney more often than not. They poll reports a tie quite often. Obama is the guy that people know and Romney is the guy people have heard of but don't really know that well yet. He's doing surprisingly well in the polls against a cult of personality, highly charismatic standing president. The same cannot be said of any of his competitors. Just look at how excited they get when their guy lands within 1% or beats Obama in a head-to-head for the first time ever! (In Ron Paul's case, I blame the media's extreme bias against him. The rest of them just suck.)

Take a look at the history of polling between the two:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

There's a lot of things working against Romney in those head to head polls. The most extremist elements of the GOP hate the fact that he's moderate and would actually be willing to work with the left. Apparently, they want a guy who will shoot Democrats first and ask questions later. The Repugs are actually convinced that a highly conservative candidate is their best option.

In the wake of the Tea Party's transformational effect on the GOP and because he belongs to what many Evangelicals wholeheartedly believe is a "heretical cult," he's getting beat up in the GOP Primaries. But the research has already been done and the "Mormonism is a cult" crowd stops caring about that completely as soon as it's a choice between Romeny and Obama.

Democrats and Independents don't really give a crap about what church Romney goes to on Sunday and they want an extreme conservative about as much as your average woman wants to get raped on any given day.

The entire landscape of Romney vs Obama changes drastically if and when Romney becomes the GOP nominee. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

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Old 02-06-2012, 03:21 AM
 
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Even if Romney did win the popular vote, he's going to have a difficult time getting 270 electoral votes. This situation is only going to get worse for the GOP as time goes on unless they can somehow attract more Latino/Hispanic voters.
Because the lowest population states are red states, the opposite is the truth.

Take Wyoming for example. 500,000 population, 3 electoral votes. Wyoming has drastically more electoral power than it has people. The vast majority of 3's on the electoral map are consistent red states, with Vermont being the only exception.

The popular vote vs electoral vote equation currently favors the GOP because the Democrats are vastly less rural-voter-friendly than the GOP.

Just as in past years, this year hinges on Florida, Ohio, Nevada, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Iowa, Indiana, Wisconsin, etc.

Agreed that the GOP must gain in the Hispanic vote. Huntsman was their best bet there, but we can all see how well that worked out.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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Carter was ahead in the polls as well before Reagan blew him away.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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Carter was ahead in the polls as well before Reagan blew him away.
I know Newt is trying to say he is Reagan reincarnated, but not many are buying it. Most know, Reagan thought very little of the Nutster.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:11 AM
 
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The trend is clear. Obama is gaining in every poll on every question. Renewed economic vigor will accelerate that trend. Romney has been branded as a tool of the rich and it is killing him. I agree though, it's nine long months to the election and things might change.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:28 AM
 
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The poll means nothing. The presidential campaign hasn't begun yet. If you're a believer in polls then wait until after Labor Day. Most people aren't paying attention, yet.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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Because the lowest population states are red states, the opposite is the truth.

Take Wyoming for example. 500,000 population, 3 electoral votes. Wyoming has drastically more electoral power than it has people. The vast majority of 3's on the electoral map are consistent red states, with Vermont being the only exception.

The popular vote vs electoral vote equation currently favors the GOP because the Democrats are vastly less rural-voter-friendly than the GOP.

Just as in past years, this year hinges on Florida, Ohio, Nevada, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Iowa, Indiana, Wisconsin, etc.

Agreed that the GOP must gain in the Hispanic vote. Huntsman was their best bet there, but we can all see how well that worked out.
Actually the lowest population states are split pretty evenly, the ten lowest population places with electoral votes are split 5 Dem. (DC, VT, DE, RI, NH) and 5 GOP (WY, SD, ND, MT, AK)
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:10 AM
 
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The poll means nothing. The presidential campaign hasn't begun yet. If you're a believer in polls then wait until after Labor Day. Most people aren't paying attention, yet.
Unless your guy is up.
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