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In their efforts to respond to the Tea Party, the GOP has just become a huge advocate of a Balanced Budget Amendment. I say let them put the thing in place. Obama and the Dems sure as hell won't.
They have absolutely no notion of how to live within an enforced balanced budget. The GOP wants their War on Terror and they want their War on Drugs and they want to build the Great Wall of China part II on our southern border. I say let them put the BBA in. 75% of Americans want the thing, so the states will definitely pass it. Then let the GOP squirm trying to figure out how to live with a balanced budget, all while holding the line on not raising taxes. It'll be fun to watch both compulsive spender political parties panic once the credit cards are all cut up!
Long term, we're taking over the GOP. The only thing that can stop it is if we play spoiler and give the old guard GOP a reason to launch a crusade against Paul's supporters.
I think your post makes a lot of sense....but good luck at getting many hardcore Paul supporters on board.
Mostly because Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not running 3rd party/independent. If the man wants to run 3rd party I'll vote for him. But I can just hear the pundits yammering on about how "the Paulites handed the election to Obama." We really don't need that.
In their efforts to respond to the Tea Party, the GOP has just become a huge advocate of a Balanced Budget Amendment. I say let them put the thing in place. Obama and the Dems sure as hell won't.
They have absolutely no notion of how to live within an enforced balanced budget. The GOP wants their War on Terror and they want their War on Drugs and they want to build the Great Wall of China part II on our southern border. I say let them put the BBA in. 75% of Americans want the thing, so the states will definitely pass it. Then let the GOP squirm trying to figure out how to live with a balanced budget, all while holding the line on not raising taxes. It'll be fun to watch both compulsive spender political parties panic once the credit cards are all cut up!
Long term, we're taking over the GOP. The only thing that can stop it is if we play spoiler and give the old guard GOP a reason to launch a crusade against Paul's supporters.
I had, but thinking about it, if the man wanted people to write him in, he'd run Independent. In a way, it feels like I'm telling him he's running as an Independent when he already said he isn't. If he runs, then he's got my vote. I live in a very blue state and the home state of Obama, so I think I have that luxury without impacting the overall outcome. But if I were in a battleground state, I'd have to give it serious thought.
While I'm not crazy about my choices, I can at least vote against the biggest compulsive deficit spender in US history, and casting that vote for the GOP nominee becomes more meaningful than a write-in for a Ron Paul that isn't running anyways.
Ron Paul supporters just have to start thinking long-term. This election cycle definitely got sabotaged by the MSM and yes there was no doubt a fair bit of fraud in the primaries. But barring a miracle, Ron Paul isn't going to be nominee. That's just reality at this point.
The worst possible thing we can do is pouting and refusing to be part of the process if Paul doesn't win. I say go vote cast your vote for "the lesser of two evils" (whichever you think that is) in the general election, but I know most won't listen to me. The problem is, if the Republicans lose then they'll blame us for sabotaging the election. (The fact that Ron Paul gathers support from both GOP and Dems is a fact that will be entirely lost on them of course.) And it'll end up being a deja vu all over again replay of the sudden rise and equally sudden collapse of Ross Perot's movement. Perot was right about a great many things, but nobody cares and few really remember anything he stood for. What a tragedy if we repeat the same mistakes!
The movement Ron Paul began is a lot got bigger and a lot louder this election cycle. Just keep on going and growing and don't sabotage things and eventually this movement becomes the GOP mainstream. I used to ignore Ron Paul just like most people do. This time around, I finally pulled my head out and took a closer look and now I'm a believer. (Before I didn't realize how much I already agreed with the man because I was dumb enough to just ignore RP.)
Well, you got me thinking, for sure. I have always agreed with more of Paul's message than those parts I disagree with, but with him, you have to take it all or nothing, and I have another acceptable candidate, so for me, it's the nothing.
But for sure, if Paul's transformational beliefs take root in others, they could really change what we have now for the better. And the sooner, the better.
Well, you got me thinking, for sure. I have always agreed with more of Paul's message than those parts I disagree with, but with him, you have to take it all or nothing, and I have another acceptable candidate, so for me, it's the nothing.
But for sure, if Paul's transformational beliefs take root in others, they could really change what we have now for the better. And the sooner, the better.
We can spend so much effort on terrorist, but can't get a transparent or accountable voting system. Just the presidency, not like people should care or anything.
My biggest issue is w/ electronic machines because that is by far the easiest and highly effective way to steal elections. Makes it a piece of cake. Especially the central processing and in transit from precincts.
Moving all the military back here. While I agree with Paul that the U.S. has far too much international military presence, as the greatest power on Earth, I think it's vital that we keep a few bases where very precise strikes can be mounted from.
Those special ops teams did more to cripple Al Quida in a year than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars have done in 10 years, at a fraction of the cost in lives and equipment. The US is simply too far away to make these strikes effective, and the great distance also reduces the chance of success greatly. Speed and precision are our greatest weapons now, and we need forward bases to provide both.
The SEAL thunderbolt strikes are, in my opinion, a very effective peacekeeper. With the added use of drones, I believe that we can drastically cut down the size of the active military while maintaining a good reserve as a national defense force. So I'm halfway with Paul on this.
I'm also not sure killing the Fed is a good idea, at least not right now. The Fed was a very good regulator for decades, even though it really failed in 2008. Until more safeguards are in place to limit future major financial hanky-panky, I think the Fed is better than nothing at all.
I also believe the government could be better downsized by cutting away the duplication of services and paperwork within the existing agencies rather than doing away with them wholesale. The agencies all serve good purposes, but they need to be slicked up and overhauled, not dismantled.
We can spend so much effort on terrorist, but can't get a transparent or accountable voting system. Just the presidency, not like people should care or anything.
My biggest issue is w/ electronic machines because that is by far the easiest and highly effective way to steal elections. Makes it a piece of cake. Especially the central processing and in transit from precincts.
Most of the established democracies in the world are using electronic voting machines with no problems. I can't understand why Diebold couldn't get it right the first time- it's not like we don't have plenty of excellent digital engineers.
Even Brazil has better machines than we have.
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